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I am in the camp of IL has done more good than bad for Wigan. There is room for improvement yes but we are forgetting how much money this man has put in from his own pocket to cover financial losses the club has made over the years. You could argue that the losses are partially down to the club with things such as pathetic marketing, poor rugby to watch on the field, signings that don’t make fans excited, etc. we have had 4 grand final wins, 2 challenge cups and a world club Challenge in the last ten years. Look at the mess we were in when IL took over and if anyone would have told you we would win this over a 12 year period you would have laughed at them.

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Quote: WiganPom "I am in the camp of IL has done more good than bad for Wigan. There is room for improvement yes but we are forgetting how much money this man has put in from his own pocket to cover financial losses the club has made over the years. You could argue that the losses are partially down to the club with things such as pathetic marketing, poor rugby to watch on the field, signings that don’t make fans excited, etc. we have had 4 grand final wins, 2 challenge cups and a world club Challenge in the last ten years. Look at the mess we were in when IL took over and if anyone would have told you we would win this over a 12 year period you would have laughed at them.'"

That’s the problem, we all talk about what Leneghan has done and not what he is going to do. It’s great to remember the past but it’s important not to get stuck in it.

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Quote: hatty "That’s the problem, we all talk about what Leneghan has done and not what he is going to do. It’s great to remember the past but it’s important not to get stuck in it.'"


Who’s stuck in it? I think what people are saying is that we have faith in Lenagan going forward because of the impressive track record he has.

In terms of being stuck in the past I think that can be said for a proportion of our fan base who want us to be the Wigan of the past - sign whoever we want, pay them whatever we want and win every game. The sport is not like that any more and it seems as though people resent Lenegan for being a sensible, but successful, business man who’s looking after the best interest of the club.

I seriously can’t comprehend anyone who slates him given everything he has done. (Ps, I’m not saying he his mistake free as of course he is not, but on balance he has done us good more often than not).

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One of the problems with this board is that many are stuck in the past.................... The 1980's.. curtain.gif

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Quote: Wigan Peer "One of the problems with this board is that many are stuck in the past.................... The 1980's..
Here here. Exactly what I said above.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: WARRIOR5 "Here here. Exactly what I said above.'"


I wouldn’t say stuck in the 80’s, a lot of fans just want better and it’s the same at every club in every sport that has tasted success.

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Of course we want better but some fans still think that even under a salary cap we should have 17 internationals in our side and sign the likes of Cronk, Tedesco and the Burgess clan.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Of course we want better but some fans still think that even under a salary cap we should have 17 internationals in our side and sign the likes of Cronk, Tedesco and the Burgess clan.'"


Nail hit firmly on the head!

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Of course we want better but some fans still think that even under a salary cap we should have 17 internationals in our side and sign the likes of Cronk, Tedesco and the Burgess clan.'"


We have the marquee signing allowance that allows us to pay Cronk and Tedesco the salaries they’d require to come and play for us so it is possible if Lenagan is willing to pay a hell of a lot of money out of his own pocket for it to happen. (Not that I would if I were him TBH)

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To me it seems IL doesn't want to keep bank rolling.
Tbh if Wigan are running without losses now I wouldnt be surprised...and impressed how Wigan are still in touch of being competitive when you take out Saints and Wire. Think you'll squeeze the 5 now. The week off will do wonders.

Perhaps I should give IL more credit.

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Quote: rubber duckie "To me it seems IL doesn't want to keep bank rolling.
Tbh if Wigan are running without losses now I wouldnt be surprised...and impressed how Wigan are still in touch of being competitive when you take out Saints and Wire. Think you'll squeeze the 5 now. The week off will do wonders.

Perhaps I should give IL more credit.'"


Why would he when the fans can’t even be bothered turning up most of the time?

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Quote: Wigg'n "Why would he when the fans can’t even be bothered turning up most of the time?'"

You have to give the fans something to turn up for

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Quote: Wigg'n "Why would he when the fans can’t even be bothered turning up most of the time?'"


Aye, because ‘I can’t be bothered’ is the reason I don’t go. Or most others who’ve stopped, in recent years.
Not the crap product I’m being charged £60 for my family to watch.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Why would he when the fans can’t even be bothered turning up most of the time?'"

Fans stop going when they don't like what the see or they find something better to do.
IL to increase gates has to improve the former which will assist in offsetting the latter.
The recent strategy of dull percentage play and lack of star quality plainly isn't working. Fans moaning on forums isn't driving down gates it's the standard of the product on offer.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Fans stop going when they don't like what the see or they find something better to do.
IL to increase gates has to improve the former which will assist in offsetting the latter.
The recent strategy of dull percentage play and lack of star quality plainly isn't working. Fans moaning on forums isn't driving down gates it's the standard of the product on offer.'"


Parents can take their kids to the pictures/bowling/McDonalds etc at a fraction of the cost or can buy them a computer game or points for whatever game they play. They need to reduce prices for families IMO.

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