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| Quote: cherrydevil "It doesnt seem that way on the games I have seen. It seems like he was badly outnumbered and wasnt at fault anywhere near as much as you are trying to make out, unless of course you think that Pryce will always stop overlaps. If Goulding was as bad as you are trying to make out then he would have been dropped by now. Wasnt Ainscough dropped after one game for these reasons? Havent other Wigan players been dropped because of poor defence? Seeing as he hasnt I guess your coach disagrees with you and your view of what has happened. I have to say though you do seem a little biased in all of this and seem to be seeing just what you want to see. Pryce wouldnt be one of your favourite players by any chance ![]()
Goulding has been dropped this season already for poor defence. 
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Goulding has been dropped this season already for poor defence. ![]()
Beat me too it, egg on face
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| Quote: jonh "The problem is though Goulding has been badly caught out of position on several occasions of late and that is why he is to be blamed for allowing in tries. It has nothing to do with statistics but much to do with what has/is happening on the pitch.
Its interesting to note that you pick up on the fact teams may not attack down Pryce's side as much as they have Gouldings, I wonder why that is? Surely just a simple coincidence........a coach would never ask his players to attack the weaker side now would he? Thats just crazy!'"
No arguments on Pryce's good performances but what tries specifically has Goulding been caught out of position?
The first try against Huddersfield certainly, but most of the other tries were just working the numbers. Leuluai has been targeted defensively for the last 3 games, Marsh was poor against Huddersfield (but inexperienced) and Gleeson was poor against Crusaders. I can't see how Goulding gets the blame. Only one try was actually scored on his wing against Crusaders but the poor defence of Gleeson and Leuluai is hardly mentioned. |
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| Quote: cherrydevil "It doesnt seem that way on the games I have seen. It seems like he was badly outnumbered and wasnt at fault anywhere near as much as you are trying to make out, unless of course you think that Pryce will always stop overlaps. If Goulding was as bad as you are trying to make out then he would have been dropped by now. Wasnt Ainscough dropped after one game for these reasons? Havent other Wigan players been dropped because of poor defence? Seeing as he hasnt I guess your coach disagrees with you and your view of what has happened. I have to say though you do seem a little biased in all of this and seem to be seeing just what you want to see. Pryce wouldnt be one of your favourite players by any chance ![]()
What you seem to be blissfully unaware of is he has already been dropped for poor defence.
Also while it may be true in kids rugby regards which side a team attacks because they find it easier to pass to the left, in the professional game players are directed to attack the weak points.
Regards using misusing statistics? Where, I have clearly stated it is the evidence of what I have seen nothing to do with stats.While I agree Goulding has been left high and dry on a few occasions he has also made some errors that have allowed his opposite number to score, and to be fair it is something he has always had an issue with.
Since his return Pryce has improved every game and defended very well and finished everything he has has a chance to. Nobody is claiming his form is world class simply that he has done enough in the last few weeks while playing on the same field as Goulding to retain his shirt.
I think you need to try to find another was to have a dig at Wigan fans and the club as this one goes down as a major failed attempt.
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Goulding has been dropped this season already for poor defence. ![]()
Do you mean after filling in at centre for one game because of Carmont being injured? Carmont was fit again the following week and was always going to get his place back. Has Goulding not played in every game since then and become one of the first choice wingers?
Even if what you are saying was the reason, which I dont know if it was or not, other than Carmont just getting his place back then it merely backs up what I am saying as it is fair to assume that he would be dropped again if he was at fault like some are trying to claim. The fact that he hasnt, has instead played the bulk of the season and has established himself as one of the first choice wingers speaks volumes.
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| Quote: cherrydevil "It doesnt seem that way on the games I have seen. It seems like he was badly outnumbered and wasnt at fault anywhere near as much as you are trying to make out, unless of course you think that Pryce will always stop overlaps. If Goulding was as bad as you are trying to make out then he would have been dropped by now. Wasnt Ainscough dropped after one game for these reasons? Havent other Wigan players been dropped because of poor defence? Seeing as he hasnt I guess your coach disagrees with you and your view of what has happened. I have to say though you do seem a little biased in all of this and seem to be seeing just what you want to see. Pryce wouldnt be one of your favourite players by any chance 
Hope you beat the Rhinos.
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I know the last 3 years hurt you Gaz! but I never realised how much!
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "No arguments on Pryce's good performances but what tries specifically has Goulding been caught out of position?
The first try against Huddersfield certainly, but most of the other tries were just working the numbers. Leuluai has been targeted defensively for the last 3 games, Marsh was poor against Huddersfield (but inexperienced) and Gleeson was poor against Crusaders. I can't see how Goulding gets the blame. Only one try was actually scored on his wing against Crusaders but the poor defence of Gleeson and Leuluai is hardly mentioned.'"
Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead. |
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[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| Quote: cherrydevil "Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead.'"
Why are you so bothered? Your not even a Wigan fan are you? At the end of the day some people on here would pick Pryce over Goulding, I dont see why you have such a big problem with that? If Maguire picks Pryce over Goulding on Saturday are you going to be ok? |
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| Quote: cherrydevil "Do you mean after filling in at centre for one game because of Carmont being injured? Carmont was fit again the following week and was always going to get his place back. Has Goulding not played in every game since then and become one of the first choice wingers?
Even if what you are saying was the reason, which I dont know if it was or not, other than Carmont just getting his place back then it merely backs up what I am saying as it is fair to assume that he would be dropped again if he was at fault like some are trying to claim. The fact that he hasnt, has instead played the bulk of the season and has established himself as one of the first choice wingers speaks volumes.'"
Thats the game Hull fc at home. Carmont wasnt always going to get his place back. Nobody in our team this season gets automatically picked unless they deserve it. Goulding scored 2 tries but got dropped for Castleford the week after due to poor defence.
He isnt a first choice winger either, he wouldnt of played as many games there if Roberts and Phelps werent injured for quite a few weeks between them. |
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| Quote: cherrydevil "Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead.'"
Nobody is blaming Goulding for anything. People are just comparing Pryce to Goulding as one of them will be dropped to fit Roberts back in. Pryce in defence has been better than Goulding and thats a fact your just going to have to accept. People are comparing players that play in similar positions because its relevant or shall we compare Sam to Fielden instead? |
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cherrydevil, As a Salford fan, how are you comparing the performances of Goulding and Pryce?
Surely not just from the snippets you have seen on boots 'n' all. The only game that has been on t.v. was v Huddersfield at Murrayfileld.
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| Quote: Mother Feka "Why are you so bothered? Your not even a Wigan fan are you? At the end of the day some people on here would pick Pryce over Goulding, I dont see why you have such a big problem with that? If Maguire picks Pryce over Goulding on Saturday are you going to be ok? ![]()
I am just amazed at how fickle some Wigan fans are because a player has scored 8 walk in tries and only played 4 games. I also thought that Wigan fans were a lot more knowledgeable about the game than some seem to be on here. It was jonh who started going on about Ainscough and Goulding to somehow defend Pryce, I was just intrigued by the childlike reasons that he gave and general lack of understanding about the game.
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