Quite possibly NK.

As I've said previously I do believe there's a player in there but when you see the impact Dupree had in that game or how Havard is making himself into one of the best in the league, both at a similar age, it does leave me feeling a little frustrated with him. He has the tools. He just doesn't seem to be getting the best out of them. I think he should be rested this week as we're playing a team with one eye on the final next week and with Dupree's addition we have enough up front not to miss him. Bring in Hill or Havard, if fit, and we're good in the front row. Alternatively, play KPP at prop and bring Nsemba/Shorrocks into the back row.

Do it this week and he'll get a 2 to 3 week break.

Smithies needed to give a penalty away. Staying back opened up the gap which Byrne couldn’t fill.

You're probably right in hindsight Zig, but then hindsight is always right. He'd have copped plenty of stick if he'd deliberately given a penalty away as we would never have known that it actually saved a try.

I'm guessing he believed the gap would be covered as perhaps it might have been had Byrne been less passive.

In the end, there's a shared responsibility there though. Neither got it right.

I would always have given the penalty away if I was defending in my own 10m.

Give Hill more minutes now we have Dupree. I’d rather invest in his development than Byrne’s who has never shown any form of dominance of a number of games in his career. He should be the next out of the door like Partington was.

Exactly. It is the penalty that Faz gave away that annoyed me.

Talking of props running with vigour, I’m just watching Harvie Makin playing for Barrow and my word, he knows how to smash a ball up! Not the biggest but he’s causing all sorts of problems. Not seen a great deal of him before.

Played at Judes in the same team as Junior. This Judes team was almost unbeatable, I think they lost less than five games from the team being 7 to 16. Harvey has a good engine, not the biggest as you say. His dad Craig played at Widnes back in the 90's.

Aka Andy Platt.

I personally don’t get the clamour to move Liam Byrne on. I think he is doing a solid job and went well on the weekend.

His development hasn’t moved on as much as I expected this year but let’s not forget he is still very young in Prop terms and also had a vastly reduced off season due to his involvement in the World Cup.

If we were to let him go at this stage I’m certain we would come to regret it in a couple of seasons time.

KPP talked about how his lack of preseason because of the World Cup really affected his form, and his 8 week injury allowed him to get into really good shape.

As Jonh says it could be the same for Byrne.

If we let him go pretty much every super league team would be after him given the lack of English props going.

Keep him and keep developing him IMO. He’s going to be at least our 4th prop next year so not under as much pressure.

I went watching the TAG rugby after the Leigh game, some of the squad players were doing some training with Leuluai on the track, Hill was there and he looks a similar build to Partington, I wouldn't be moving Byrne on in the hope that Hill breaks through next season.

Completely agree with this. It would be foolish to let Byrne go, especially after the season he had last year. I've been really disappointed with his performances this year but it doesn't mean I'd get rid. He's only 23/24 so still plenty time to turn it around. If he doesn't kick on next year then maybe a move away maybe the best for him but we'll see.
He's had a lot of pressure on his shoulders this season due to Cooper being injured alongside Havard and Ellis dropping in and out of the side. A full preseason and playing in a better pack next year will help him massively.

The penalty when he gave Hardaker a slap on the head?
Think he retaliated to Hardaker grabbing his b@lls or, at least, giving them a sneaky flick.

Still not good enough.