Do you not mean "an Alex Walmsley from leveling it up". We comprehensively outplayed them across all departments yesterday. Not one of their players bettered his opposite number.

I still feel they’re slightly in front of us with Walmsley in but the gap has narrowed substantially from last season.

No shame in admitting that IMO. I still think there’s plenty we can improve on. I’m still not convinced by Lam and we’ve got loads of players who have rafts of development in them. I’m confident we’ll be sat here in 12 months time and will be a better side than them.

The fact that he even includes Powell in that list shows how out of touch and one-eyed he is. He's thinking of the Powell of 2 years ago, not the one we've seen under Lam. It would be like including the Holbrook era Peyroux in a similar list because he was pants under Cunningham.

It's amazing just how blind some people are though. His team includes Amor, LMS, Paulo and a handful of considerably less enthusiastic kids than ours. That's before I get to Grace; the man least able to handle pressure in the whole of superleague! If ever I've seen a flat track bully he would be it. Any pressure whatsoever and he falls to pieces!

We've been discussing a joint side on recent posts. On last night's performance it would look pretty much like Wigan with Walmsley and Makinson.

Fair comment but I'm not sure I agree. Walmsley is good, no doubt about it, but he's not Wally Lewis as he suddenly seems to have become. He's hard to neutralise but it can be done. Warrington have done it several times and I reckon defence like ours last night would have gone a long way to doing the same. Across the rest of the park they were totally outplayed. I'm not convinced that one man makes up the difference. Especially if he's a 40 minute prop. Ateotd they're not even on the pitch for half the game so, unless you have the rotation to cover (they don't) the intensity will undoubtedly drop when he's not on.

I guess we'll find out.

I think the biggest thing we can take from last night is they're not in our players heads anymore, let's be honest since the last time we beat them we haven't even be competitive against them, and for most of those five games we've looked beaten before the kick off, that's gone now, Walmsley will undoubtedly improve them but they're nowhere near as far in front of us as they were last year.

Can you imagine the hype from the sky lads had Grace scored the try Bibby scored? Every try he scores is apparently a worldie. Bill Arthur was itching for him to make a break last night.

I’d feel more confident if we had Havard in for Clubb or Flower I think. That feels a better balance to me. We’d have Bullock making ground, Singleton roughing people up and then once Bullock went off, we could bring Havard on and still have a guy capable of making good ground through the middle. I just worry Walmsley makes his usual 150 metres, which in turn gives room for others and we get pinned in our half. Our two bench props last night made 15 metres (Clubb) and 38 metres (Flower) each. Even with Walmsley off the pitch you’re risking getting squeezed in that period and unless you’ve dealt really well with them in the first 20 mins, you could be in trouble. I fancy us out wide against them mind and would probably look to push the ball a bit more once he’s back in their side.

How much of a point did John Wells make of saying Coote is the best full back in the league as well?! Only said it 15 times.

Dont forgett Grace..amazing that lad

Jesus the lot of them need shifting on instead the cling limpet like to the jobs.

Oh absolutely. But I was thinking more in terms of us having Havard or a fit and firing Burgess (if that's going to happen) to counter the return of Walmsley. We also have Manfredi due back and, although he hasn't been at his best this year, he still gives us more go forward than either Bibby or Budgie. I guess what I'm saying is you can't just factor in the return of Walmsley in isolation. We also have players who would make a difference to come back, especially in the forwards.

Incidentally we're completely disregarding the return of O'Loughlin too because of 1 bad game. An on form SOL can take Saints apart on his own.

Haha..I noticed that! Something along the lines of "it's only a matter of time until he makes a break". More like "it's only a matter of time until he completely falls apart and becomes a liability!"

Let’s hope so. There’s a good group of players here and I think they’ve lacked a bit of belief at times, so that will help. More games as good as that will do. It’s the type of game to make you fall in love or back in love with the sport. A lot of these lockdown games haven’t had you itching to get back and watch matches live but that one did with bells on. How good would that away end have been last night? And then the train back to town....can’t wait for days like those again.

I nearly commented last night about Clubb but I didn’t want to dampen the evening after a much needed and deserved win
I couldn’t really understand why he was selected and thought his contribution was baffling

I think he picked up another injury. Sure he was down getting treatment at one point and he did very limited minutes. I get he’s popular within the squad and I don’t like some of the stick he gets because he’s been a good servant for us but he’s not worth a spot currently.

I said to my son that he must have picked up an injury
When Havard gets back Clubb surely cannot get in the 17