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Quote: hatty "To think Chris Hill was on Wigan’s scholarship for five years until Dean Bell said that he wasn’t good enough, ironically along with Stefan Ratchford. Chris then got snapped up by Leigh & Ratchford with Salford, the rest as they say... is history.'"

A young scrawny Wire kid was passed over by Warrington as being too small and thin to ever develop .... I don't think your history hand has been too harshly dealt with Sam.

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Quote: rubber duckie "A young scrawny Wire kid was passed over by Warrington as being too small and thin to ever develop .... I don't think your history hand has been too harshly dealt with Sam.'"

Fair point and I never knew that Sam was on wires books, always thought he started on Wigan’s scholarship, I stand corrected.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Im not miserable, im just warning against over hyping a player. What has Bullock done thats so 'great'? Running the ball in determined a couple of times a game and then fading to obscurity is not great. Compare Bullocks contribution to that of Chris Hill when he joined Wire. Hill was a wrecking ball in his early days especially near the opposition line and immediately had an impact on Wire. Bullock needs some serious fitness work before he is starting prop but our other options are sadly so bad (except Flower) that hes now seen as a first choice prop'"


I think Bullock is going well and it will take time for him to really settle.

I agree to a certain extent though that he is being somewhat overhyped mainly because he brings something different to our front row and somethings we as fans have missed ie a line breaking forward.

For me at his level in an ideal world he would be 4/5th choice Prop but due to current poor form of others he is probably in our top 2, which is more a reflection in the poor form of the others rather than something to overhype Bullock for.

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Quote: hatty "Fair point and I never knew that Sam was on wires books, always thought he started on Wigan’s scholarship, I stand corrected.'"


Sam was never on Wires books. He went from St. Pats to Wigan scholarship, then the academy and then 1st team.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Sam was never on Wires books. He went from St. Pats to Wigan scholarship, then the academy and then 1st team.'"

To be honest rogues that’s exactly what I thought! I know that Sams father had/has dealings with the Warrington youth setup but that’s about as far as it goes.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Sam was never on Wires books. He wen7t from St. Pats to Wigan scholarship, then the academy and then 1st team.'"

....and I never said he was. He was passed over not ejected from.

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Quote: rubber duckie "....and I never said he was. He was passed over not ejected from.'"


Ben Currie is another who Wigan let go. Though at this point not looking as bad of a move given his injury troubles.

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Quote: WARRIOR5 "Ben Currie is another who Wigan let go. Though at this point not looking as bad of a move given his injury troubles.'"


Currie is only 24. Could still well up being a regular fixture in the GB set up throughout his career. could say the same about Manfredi, who I'm pleased we stood by.

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Quote: WARRIOR5 "Ben Currie is another who Wigan let go. Though at this point not looking as bad of a move given his injury troubles.'"

That's rubbish too... Wigan were furious that Wire signed him...they spoke with him before he went on tour....Wire was waiting for him when he returned. It was a classic case of you snooze you lose.

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Quote: rubber duckie "That's rubbish too... Wigan were furious that Wire signed him...they spoke with him before he went on tour....Wire was waiting for him when he returned. It was a classic case of you snooze you lose.'"


Pray do tell, how do Warrington keep getting the Youth recruitment and development soooo right?

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Quote: rubber duckie "That's rubbish too... Wigan were furious that Wire signed him...they spoke with him before he went on tour....Wire was waiting for him when he returned. It was a classic case of you snooze you lose.'"


I didn’t say Wigan were glad to let Currie go, I wish we didn’t. I was simply saying with injuries over the last few years it hasn’t necessarily been a bad thing. But as another poster said, it may well prove to be a terrible decision if he finds some steady fitness. He’s quality.

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Quote: rubber duckie "That's rubbish too... Wigan were furious that Wire signed him...they spoke with him before he went on tour....Wire was waiting for him when he returned. It was a classic case of you snooze you lose.'"


That's not true either, Lenagan had enough of playing Russian Roulette and decided to stop. Plus Wire were "offering a few extras"

A bit like they did with Michael Learmonth and Morgan Smith. That turned out well didn't it?

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Quote: rubber duckie "That's rubbish too... Wigan were furious that Wire signed him...they spoke with him before he went on tour....Wire was waiting for him when he returned. It was a classic case of you snooze you lose.'"


Can you stop making things up and embarrassing yourself.

Tomkins was always signing for Wigan, like his brother already had, hence why he was playing for St Pats. Warrington would have killed for a chance to sign him.

Out of interest what tour did Currie return from for Warrington to sign him?

Warrington via John Bastian did everything they could to tempt him away from Wigan at the end of the scholarship. Certain people within the Wigan club had doubts about whether he was tough enough for Super League.

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Quote: jonh "I think Bullock is going well and it will take time for him to really settle.

I agree to a certain extent though that he is being somewhat overhyped mainly because he brings something different to our front row and somethings we as fans have missed ie a line breaking forward.

For me at his level in an ideal world he would be 4/5th choice Prop but due to current poor form of others he is probably in our top 2, which is more a reflection in the poor form of the others rather than something to overhype Bullock for.'"


Its a sad sad situation when a championship player who is out of steam after 10 minutes is seen as one of your best props. How did Lenegan get this so wrong? We have all been shouting for 1/2 new big experienced props for years.

Its the same with half back. For years many of us shouted for a new 7 and we ended up with.... a championship player (Sammut)

Same at centre, we all knew we needed a big strike centre and we ended up with.....a championship player (Hankinson)

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Its a sad sad situation when a championship player who is out of steam after 10 minutes is seen as one of your best props. How did Lenegan get this so wrong? We have all been shouting for 1/2 new big experienced props for years.

Its the same with half back. For years many of us shouted for a new 7 and we ended up with.... a championship player (Sammut)

Same at centre, we all knew we needed a big strike centre and we ended up with.....a championship player (Hankinson)'"


How did Lenagan get it so wrong? You mean winning the Grand Final, Academy Grand Final and Womens Grand Final. I think he knows what he’s doing.

I’m not disagreeing for the sake of it but it sounds as though you’d be better off supporting Warrington as only big name signings will suffice. The irony being you would, I presume, be over the moon if we signed Walmsley from Saints... who was a championship player.

I understand the rationale with Sammut but he’s played one and a half games, how have you so quickly concluded he is no good? Hankinson though is unfair criticism. We saw him a few times last year and he was very strong until he got the eye injury. You can’t write him off just because he’s from the championship.

I also don’t understand the dislike towards Bullock. Is he the finished article? No. But I don’t think anyone is saying he is. Does he have potential to be an impressive forward with arguably his best years in front of him? Yes. Barry and Terry have both been full of praise for him on sky, and something tells me they know a little bit about what a good forward looks like.

The championship is full of talent which can be turned into top players. If you can identify that talent it’s a shroud investment. Some risks will work, some won’t.

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