so 4-8 meens 8 then to you does it. personnaly i dont care. hope Gildart is ok and playing again soon, good honest player. ferres is crap and a liability, we have better players than him

just having a laugh nice to have some good debate and a joke, these boards have become way too aggressive angry and serious last few years, this is like 4-5 years ago, when we were just all RL fans

For once I agree with you

Awful news. Hope he's back on the mend soon.

An 8 match ban should see him getting fatter so next time he does a crusher tackle he won't just be breaking vertebrae he'll be suffocating his victims with his gut

well, you had a point there.......for a minute

based on last seasons bu11, all things being equal, ferres should get 2 games if he's really unlucky
but I doubt he'll be afforded the same measure of cockeyed leniency......hopefully

How's Lance Hohaia's face?

People in glass houses and all that...

The same one where his season didn't end, was only predicted to end due to being towards the end of the season and that injury being because he fell awkwardly and not because of the high shot? Come on, you can do better.

I don't know, hows Robbie McCormacks face?

I don't think Ben Flower posts on here - if he did you would have a point. Unless of course your point is that one which would embarrass a primary school pupil that you can't have an opinion on something because somebody who you have no control over did something a few years ago that has absolutely nothing to do with the incident now being discussed.

Which makes it ok then? Glad you cleared that up.

My point is that of ALL clubs, i find it incredulous that Wigan fans have the gall to call out cheap shots when the Macguire and Wane years have all been about going for players knees.

Add that to the Big Time Charlie 'glass' Bateman and McIlorums cheap shots - it makes it even more hypocritical.

Like I said PRIMARY SCHOOL argument. How dare someone have an opinion on something else because a player they have no control over did something completely unconnected - grow up.

For your information the general consensus on here from what I can remember was that Hohaia deserved that first punch (he did in fact get a ban for putting his forearm on Flower's face) but the 2nd punch was unforgivable and deserving of a lengthy ban. But that might get in the way of your extremely immature argument and way of thinking.

Stepping over the BS for a minute ( I'm not pointing fingers at either side). I hope Gildart makes a swift recovery.

Absolute state of this, just absolutely tragic. Poor lads been badly hurt in a nasty tackle and all you're ar*ed about is previous incidents from years ago and comparing players' history to one an another. Get a grip, fella or should i say ya little immature kid.

I'm in disbelief that anyone could put forward so stupid an argument. This would sound childish in a primary school playground! Good to see that the vast majority of Leeds fans are rational adults. I'd despair if this was the general level of debate. What next? My dad's bigger than yours?

Hope Olly is soon well and playing again. Unfortunately personal experience makes me fear the worst. Back injuries are rarely straight forward and this sounds like a bad one.