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| Quote: BD "To be fair, Solomona's agent has links (i.e. they own companies together) to Ian Lenegan, so he's swinging but not that wide.
FWIW I don't understand this animosity between the clubs.'"
A company completely unrelated to anything to do with Clarke's agency business. To claim Wigan RL has anything to do with Sale and Solomona is, like I said, embarrassing.
Sale have links to Salford, but I've yet to see Koukash implicated. I wonder why?
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "A company completely unrelated to anything to do with Clarke's agency business. To claim Wigan RL has anything to do with Sale and Solomona is, like I said, embarrassing.
Sale have links to Salford, but I've yet to see Koukash implicated. I wonder why?'"
You haven't looked far enough then. There's a 100+ page on the Cas forum with many, many theories. It's just people looking for someone to blame.
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| Quote: kobashi "Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air.
You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue.
Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.'"
One way to increase the benefit players can receive without the clubs having to spend money would be to allow external sponsorship, sponsored vehicles, player endorsements, etc but I suppose that upsets the "level playing field" argument that has completely engulfed the original aims of the salary cap.
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "One way to increase the benefit players can receive without the clubs having to spend money would be to allow external sponsorship, sponsored vehicles, player endorsements, etc but I suppose that upsets the "level playing field" argument that has completely engulfed the original aims of the salary cap.'"
Spot on.
It's great putting up annual returns, but that's a club 'going it alone'. Even if the club managed to secure 20 businesses at a £20k investment that's £400k in the bank.
Put that into perspective the company I work for pays about £80k a season for corporate football tickets at City, United and Liverpool. Whilst it's great hospitality you don't get access to players etc which I'm sure Wigan could arrange. Cars is another one where the players are getting to feel the love.
It's something that would be available to all clubs, but as with these things some clubs will be better than others at it. Such is life though
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| Quote: BD "You haven't looked far enough then. There's a 100+ page on the Cas forum with many, many theories. It's just people looking for someone to blame.'"
I could save them about 100 pages:
- Denny Solomona
- Andy Clarke
- Steve Diamond
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "If you cared about keeping him in the game you'd have sold him to Wire. He'd then still be in the game as you put it and getting paid his worth.
Let's not beat around the bush, he's coming off a record breaking season and that's pushed his value up above and beyond his current deal. If you wanted to keep him then match the offer Wire gave on his wages. If you couldn't do that then sell him.
You wanted your cake and you wanted to eat it as well. Is it any wonder he ran off to RU? I'd kind of say he pushed by Cas trying looking out for no one but thier own self interests. Don't make out it's a noble cause for the good of the game as it's a situation created from your own greed.
Maybe instead follow what the champs do and let guys go with the clubs blessing. If we cant match offers or opportunities then we let them go. Makes sense for the club AND player whilst also avoiding nasty situations like this.'"
Wow. Reading through this as a genuine neutral, and you've turned me. You ARE an absolute halfwit and an embarrassment to your club, and the sport.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap?
Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs"
How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues?
I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "If you cared about keeping him in the game you'd have sold him to Wire. He'd then still be in the game as you put it and getting paid his worth.
Let's not beat around the bush, he's coming off a record breaking season and that's pushed his value up above and beyond his current deal. If you wanted to keep him then match the offer Wire gave on his wages. If you couldn't do that then sell him.
You wanted your cake and you wanted to eat it as well. Is it any wonder he ran off to RU? I'd kind of say he pushed by Cas trying looking out for no one but thier own self interests. Don't make out it's a noble cause for the good of the game as it's a situation created from your own greed.
Maybe instead follow what the champs do and let guys go with the clubs blessing. If we cant match offers or opportunities then we let them go. Makes sense for the club AND player whilst also avoiding nasty situations like this.'"
I cant believe you really think that....they dont want their cake and eat it they want their player they are paying to play, simple. Solomona scored lots of tries last year but he didnt do it all on his own think he will get found out very quickly and will love it if cas are successful is taking all his cash and then he falls flat on his face.
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| Quote: BD "To be fair, Solomona's agent has links (i.e. they own companies together) to Ian Lenegan, so he's swinging but not that wide.
FWIW I don't understand this animosity between the clubs.'"
I believe the hostility dates back to season 2006 when we were relegated, and Wigan blatantly fiddled the salary cap figure to stay up.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "If you cared about keeping him in the game you'd have sold him to Wire. He'd then still be in the game as you put it and getting paid his worth.
Let's not beat around the bush, he's coming off a record breaking season and that's pushed his value up above and beyond his current deal. If you wanted to keep him then match the offer Wire gave on his wages. If you couldn't do that then sell him.'"
Based on that theory, we should be halving the wages of the Tomkins brothers, neither of whom have ripped up trees for their high salaries.
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| Quote: HMS tiger "I believe the hostility dates back to season 2006 when we were relegated, and Wigan blatantly fiddled the salary cap figure to stay up.'"
Still crying over this
We reconfigured existing player contracts, to backload them into future seasons - in turn freeing up space in the 2006 season to sign Fielden. No rules were broken (the same practice had occured previously in the NRL even). Lots of crying ensued and the RoFL made up a rule to punish us. The End.
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| Quote: HMS tiger "I believe the hostility dates back to season 2006 when we were relegated, and Wigan blatantly fiddled the salary cap figure to stay up.'"
I suspect it's more to do with us beating at your own pad last season when, for some reason best known to yourselves, you'd convinced yourselves you were going to win.
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| Quote: Cruncher "I suspect it's more to do with us beating at your own pad last season when, for some reason best known to yourselves, you'd convinced yourselves you were going to win.'"
Oh was that the game when we celebrated with a celebratory team photograph like the winners we are, Or are they still angry about Kelvin Skerrett's swinging arm?
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Oh was that the game when we celebrated with a celebratory team photograph like the winners we are, Or are they still angry about Kelvin Skerrett's swinging arm?'"
I think Kelvin spent to many evenings in the pubs and clubs of Cas with mams of Cas fans. It's the only rational explanation I can come up with. That or the other alternative rationale is that we really are the club of the devil.
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