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| Quote: Lebron James "Surely wigans public liability would cover it anyway in the event of any legal action?
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I doubt Wigan (and more to the point their insurance company) would accept liability for the conduct of an individual employee. |
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| Quote: DaveO "And it might not. Yet though they don't say it directly the journos deliberately imply it was. What your foot has got to do with it I don't know because as you basically went to to argue with yourself we don't know one way or the other.
Those who are saying "he was OK before Flower hit him and now he isn't so it must be Flower who did it" are not applying logic even if they thin they are. (Yes Allez I mean you).'"
Sure Dave. It must have had nothing to do with it at all, not sure how anyone could even claim the most spurious of links. I retract my earlier statements. |
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has a testimonial been arranged for him? that would raise some money for him or a charity, brain trauma foundation or something like that. Any other player retiring injured might do this but somehow I get the feeling this isn't going to happen. I hope I am wrong (again)
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I doubt Wigan (and more to the point their insurance company) would accept liability for the conduct of an individual employee.'"
I'm not sure it would ever get that far anyway. Think for a second the precedent it would set. The lawyers would be the only winners & both codes plus wendyball would be sanitised to the point of a chess game (or draughts if you prefer).
And how far back would you go? Keane on that Norwegian lad? Or just three years as per statute? Minefield. |
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "I'm not sure it would ever get that far anyway. Think for a second the precedent it would set. The lawyers would be the only winners & both codes plus wendyball would be sanitised to the point of a chess game (or draughts if you prefer).
And how far back would you go? Keane on that Norwegian lad? Or just three years as per statute? Minefield.'"
The precedent is already set. Haarland did indeed start legal action but couldn't prove it was solely keane's tackle that ultimately ended his career. However, Manchester United player Ben collet successfully sued both Gary Smith and Middlesbrough for a tackle that ended his career and was awarded over £4m. |
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "The precedent is already set. Haarland did indeed start legal action but couldn't prove it was solely keane's tackle that ultimately ended his career. However, Manchester United player Ben collet successfully sued both Gary Smith and Middlesbrough for a tackle that ended his career and was awarded over £4m.'"
Well, I didn't know that. Although in my defense, I don't pay much attention to the round-ball-game. All bets off then. |
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he'd have no chance, whats to say any tackle since the incident has caused it?
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Quote: CyberPieMan "Quote: CyberPieMan "The precedent is already set. Haarland did indeed start legal action but couldn't prove it was solely keane's tackle that ultimately ended his career. However, Manchester United player Ben collet successfully sued both Gary Smith and Middlesbrough for a tackle that ended his career and was awarded over £4m.'"
Well, I didn't know that. Although in my defense, I don't pay much attention to the round-ball-game. All bets off then.'"
It wouldn't be the first time in rugby either. Jarrod McCracken successfully sued Melbourne a few years back after a spear tackle by Stephen Kearney and Marcus Bai ended his career.
www.smh.com.au/news/League/McCra ... 21058.html
Of course, this is a completely different case and everyone is jumping to conclusions. However, given the coverage it garnered and the fact that it went way beyond what even the most blood thirsty fan would consider acceptable, don't be surprised. Let's face it, before the days of MMA it would have looked even more barbaric. Punching someone that has already been punched unconscious would not look good to a court, the only thing that would save it would be proving that the issues are being caused by that specific hit. |
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Quote: CyberPieMan "Quote: CyberPieMan "The precedent is already set. Haarland did indeed start legal action but couldn't prove it was solely keane's tackle that ultimately ended his career. However, Manchester United player Ben collet successfully sued both Gary Smith and Middlesbrough for a tackle that ended his career and was awarded over £4m.'"
Well, I didn't know that. Although in my defense, I don't pay much attention to the round-ball-game. All bets off then.'"
It wouldn't be the first time in rugby either. Jarrod McCracken successfully sued Melbourne a few years back after a spear tackle by Stephen Kearney and Marcus Bai ended his career.
www.smh.com.au/news/League/McCra ... 21058.html
Of course, this is a completely different case and everyone is jumping to conclusions. However, given the coverage it garnered and the fact that it went way beyond what even the most blood thirsty fan would consider acceptable, don't be surprised. Let's face it, before the days of MMA it would have looked even more barbaric. Punching someone that has already been punched unconscious would not look good to a court, the only thing that would save it would be proving that the issues are being caused by that specific hit. | |
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| Quote: Mugwump "
What was it you wrote about Walmsley & Crosby again? Or was it Sutton? Hmmmm ...
Anyhow, it's just a bit of a larf. You should learn to take life less seriously.
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You mean when I wrote at the end of last season that they were both good young players who had been good for their respective teams? It's called balance. You remember balance, don't you? That's as opposed to me writing everything Wigan is great and everything Saints is rubbish although I do realise that the concept is probably beyond you.
In fact, wasn't that the same thread where I also said Amor was quality and that Saints had potentially the best half back pairing in Superleague? Also that Walmsley had all the attributes to become one of the best in SL and an England international? I think you'll find it was. I now invite you to post where you have anything good to say about Wigan. That's anything....anything at all...No? thought not.
But it's not 'just a larf' is it? I've seen you completely lose it on threads many times where even Saints fans have turned against you and your puerile ramblings. You take it so seriously that I have feared for your wellbeing at times. In fact, the very first time I came across you on these boards was an instance where you seemed to be on the edge of a nervous breakdown and I posted directly to you to let it go for the good of your own health.
Every other post you make mentions Wigan, even when the thing being discussed has nothing to do with them. It's got so bad that you even posted the ridiculous 'I'm bored...let's start bashing pies' thread that is so mind-numbingly infantile, that it has attracted, to date 2 replies...both of them from you! Your own board finds you embarrassing. That's not my opinion by the way. That's directly from members of your own forum.
I'm glad you're so consumed with hatred for all things Wigan. At least it blinds you to how sad and pathetic you come across. If you ever saw yourself as others see you I genuinely think you'd die a little inside.
However, the really sad part is that you seem reasonably intelligent. Somewhere under all the bluster and hatred there could even be a worthwhile poster. Forgive me, though, if I don't hold my breath waiting for him to show up. It could be a long wait.
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| Quote: Mugwump "You should learn to take life less seriously. '"
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Jeez... He has Issues...
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| Quote: Smurf "Punching someone that has already been punched unconscious would not look good to a court, the only thing that would save it would be proving that the issues are being caused by that specific hit.'"
In a civil court you don't have to prove anything, only show that something occurred on the balance of probabilities. |
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www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5847
I'm not sure how the legal system works in these matters but does the fact that Hohaia submitted an early GUILTY plea to an offence (and received a ban for it) prior to the retaliation from Flower not come into play here.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5848
Also the RFL summery on the Flower suspension states that Hohaia had not suffered serious injury from Flower's actions.
This season so far he has made 8 appearances for St Helens, made 196 tackles, 64 carries with 35 from dummy half.
I sincerely hope Hohaia is fine and his health going forward is not effected but any legal action against Ben Flower does appear to be legal minefield.
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www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5847
I'm not sure how the legal system works in these matters but does the fact that Hohaia submitted an early GUILTY plea to an offence (and received a ban for it) prior to the retaliation from Flower not come into play here.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5848
Also the RFL summery on the Flower suspension states that Hohaia had not suffered serious injury from Flower's actions.
This season so far he has made 8 appearances for St Helens, made 196 tackles, 64 carries with 35 from dummy half.
I sincerely hope Hohaia is fine and his health going forward is not effected but any legal action against Ben Flower does appear to be legal minefield.
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| Quote: Pieman "he'd have no chance, whats to say any tackle since the incident has caused it?'"
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