I'm not really sure who you're referring to? Manfredi does a decent job and has got a bright future ahead of him but Charnley is one of the best wingers in SL and rightfully got slotted back in when fit. Thornley was clearly put in against Widnes to regain some match fitness before the Leeds, Wire games and the playoffs seeing as though there's no reserve grade and it's too late for him to get sent out on loan, plus Sarginson has been poor in the last couple of months. Same with Green, he's first choice and needed to displace one of the youngsters to gain match fitness. Plus I do think Powell and Williams genuinely had knocks against Widnes because it simply didn't make sense to rest both when McIlorum and Green weren't up to speed and the only other option was Doran.

Yes I miss everything you mention, I also miss being able to shoulder charge , stealing the ball, full on brutal games the spectators (and players) love, that's what rugby league is and if you don't like that then maybe you should be at the DW on Saturdays not Friday evening or you could walk the dog in the park.

So in summation, you miss thuggery in our great game.

God

Dont be such a tart.

Rugby league "the toughest game in the world"

"our" great game was built on toughness. Now is just sanitized and dull.

Blah blah f-in blah... You see posts like this from fans all the time, yet when Kevin Sinfield 'headbutts' Luke Dorn there's a 20 page thread calling for blood. Fans go on, and on and on about 'biff' and the 'good old days' of cheap shots, and handbags, but the reality is RL fans in general are a bunch of soft hypocrites

I think you will find that the 20 page thread was on the Leeds forum not here but anyhow.. back on topic, there's nothing wrong with a bit of "biff" as you put it, it used to be the way teams got momentum and the upper hand, the forwards softening up the opposition forwards. There was nothing better than the first 15 mins of a game, this is where lines were drawn and platforms laid.

Not from me you have f-in not pal...............

But your right about the hypocrites. Absolutely riddled with them this place

I suppose if you mean would I rather watch Les Boyd and Kelvin Skerrett than Eorl Crabtree and LMS then the answer is yes.

Here here to that

If Ryan Bailey ever got up to the antics that Skerrett or Boyd did, you'd probably want him banned for a season.

I hate Ryan Bailey with a passion, but would I like to see another five Ryan Bailey type players in the competition....damn right I would.
He's the type of player that get the crowd going, we all love pantomime villains and our game doesn't have enough of them.
Shaun Edwards was hated by supporters from almost every club
Les Boyd was detested here at Wigan
Paul Bishop another one hated by all at Wigan
Neil Holding is another
All were great players, all were detested but all were great characters of our game. Sadly we lack these type of players in the modern game.

Alex Murphy was the most hated of the lot by us.
But by heck, he was one of the greatest ever RL players of all time.

Bring back the biff !

Hey, if you're happy watching what you're watching, good luck to you. However, please don't mention Bailey in the same sentence as Boyd, my sides might just split wide open.