Hanley and Farrell are streets ahead of virtually any British LF in the last 20 years. Without taking anything away from Clarke, who was a fine player, he wasn't as good as O'Loughlin as he simply didn't have the combined skill set that O'Loughlin posseses. Their defence is comparable and both are great leaders who lead from the front but O'Loughlin has a better passing game by some considerable distance. O'Loughlin also has a useful kicking game which Clarke never had. O'Loughlin is regarded by most good judges on both sides of the globe as genuinely world class so I'm sure you'll excuse me if I take your opinion with the pinch of salt it deserves.

Just one other thing. You say 'trust me...' then go on to give an opinion based on nothing but bias and club loyalty. Why exactly should we 'trust you' again? I don't hear any clamour for Hodgson to be included for England anywhere, or is this something solely restricted to the area around East Hull? Just for your information MM is the incumbent. Obviously your opinion is a more accurate barometer of who is best though...

Now that was a spear tackle from Roby, but he's no thug

McIlorum is a thug.

I watched the World Club Challenge and do not remember McIlorum standing out in the beaten Wigan team. I have read a few reports to refresh my memory and struggle to find a reference to McIlorum. Indeed, Warea-Hargreaves scored a try so perhaps McIlorum should have tried to tackle him rather than beating him senseless.

It is amusing that a number of posts also refer to Ryan Bailey. If you need to make that comparison to try and highlight McIlorum's qualities then he needs some new friends.

he also dived in with his knees in a tackle yesterday but apologised straight away so far play him.

Well - Shaun Wane is proving himself to be a pretty decent coach. And he has said that MMc is the toughest player he has ever coached. He also makes him captain in Lockers absence.

I think that's all you need to know my friend. It may be that Shaun Wane knows a thing or two about MMc's attributes that you are not party to. Just a thought.

I think fans of other SL teams would love to have McIlorum in their team, even though they will never admit it.

The Wigan squad was in my local a couple of years ago celebrating after beating Sts I think.

It was clear to me that MM was one of Waney's favourite players.

I reckon if you asked SW who was his must have Wigan players, MM would be in his top three.

Daryl Clarke in exchange for that nasty sneering 'limited ability' thug?? No thanks, Clarke is on a different planet.

Mcilorum ran 40mtrs to break Kirk dixons jaw at our place, week after week we see him and the other kray twin Bateman niggling and sneering at the opposition instead of playing rugby.

It may well be part and parcel of the game, but I expect more from a club with the tradition of the mighty Wigan, which is now sadly a team reduced to the thuggish tactics of some Sunday morning amateur teams.

Ill stick with the entertainers thank you (no matter where we finish - top 8 or bottom eight)
You can keep blindly defending your council park thugs

Clarke is a good player and will get better next season at Warrington.

Sneering Kray twins

A big fan of Micky Mac's aggression, strength and defence, but i'd just like to see a bit more intelligence and finesse when we're going forward. His distribution can be a bit off at times too...

Yep, pity for him that he's leaving a top 4 side to go to wire

Sneering Kray twins lol. I wouldn't swap either of them for any players you have at Dull KR come to think of it.

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Massive compliment! Tez was one of my favourite Wigan players ever.