Stop crying and have an adult conversation like everyone else.

It SHOULD mean something. It doesn't. Yes I want to win it because I want to win everything but I don't lose sleep if we don't.

Aww ... have you just been outed again?

I think that is roughly where I stand on it. It's nice to win it obviously, but I wouldn't class it as major silverware or count it in trophies won.

I agree it should mean more though. I'd like to see whoever finishes top go straight to the grand final and everyone else has to fight for the right to play them.

Yes mate, you have figured me out all by yourself. Good boy.

You'd need the top 5 for that to work though I think otherwise the top team spend 4 weeks doing nothing.

1st to GF
2nd v 5th - 3rd v 4th winners meet the week after

Personally I like the RU format. Means you have to finish top 4 which puts a bigger emphasis on the league program.

The last time the play off format was introduced the clubs voted on a top 8 system,that resulted in Sky offering a TV deal that reflected that amount of games throughout the season and in the play offs

If we went to a top 4 play off series what deal would Sky offer?
Would our clubs accept a smaller amount or would they prefer a top 6 with more play off games?

I like it. 1st to GF would defo give more meaning to winning the league. I would look at a top 6/7 though instead of 5.

But did the clubs vote on the top 8 system as it guaranteed clubs more matches/revenue throughout the season, as well as clubs not likely to be in the top 4 having a potential shot at the Grand Final?

Big rumour flying around that Sam is staying at Wigan.

Rumour also that he is leaving.

Until either confirmed its just talk.

I think that system gives 1st a disadvantage in that they then have 2 weeks off where the rust could kick in. I think a better top 5 system is

1 through to week 2
2v5
3v4

Then week 2 is 1st place at home to the lowest placed week one winners, with the other week 1 winners playing at home to the highest placed week 1 losers.

Just for 2014? You are normally not far off Rogues. how confident are you?

I don't know how long for.
Source was reasonable, so I'd say 50:50, which is much better than the 20:80 of a day ago.