No, I would guess he was alot older than you sonny. He talked a lot more sense.

Child saw it and was giving the penalty from the second it happened.
Once play had stopped it was Ganson who advised him it was a red.

For the last 4 months I've been telling the lad I sit next to that MM's nhits on the player off loading the ball were going to come back and haunt us.
The difference with those and what happened last night was that usually he hits them with the shoulder or pushes with the hands, last night he hit him with a swinging arm.
The second it happened I said Red Card
Watching it again I've not changed my mind as it was reckless

Only Tiny bit of mitigation IMO is that he did swing and it defelcted off the shoulder although that's still reckless in my book.

I remember someone saying we had no chance at Saints Good Friday and would get beat by 18+
Write your teams chances off and if it happens you can say I told you so, if it doesnt no-one remembers? Good Tactic

I don't remember there being much concern about Wane's coaching from April through to begining of July?

Really??? I havent posted on here all season and yes, I have been concerned, since day one. I never thought he was the man the job.
The fact is, he's been outcoached twice this year by Tony Smith, and will be again if we meet in the play offs. Dont read anything into finishing top, I here all this "the league doesnt lie" sorry but thats a myth, in Super League the league does sometimes lie, in my opnion Warrington are a better team and better coached than Wigan this year, the fact that in more games this season they have rested players than us is the reason why they finished second. Being the smarter coach, Smith has prepared his squad perfectly for the play offs after learning the hard way last season. The amount of points we have shipped in the last few weeks is also a worry, 20+ at Hull KR, 26 last night, 30+ at Warrington. Our defence doesnt get off the line lately, its one step forward and plant your feet. Now that is coaching, they are obviously being told to defend in this way, and it isn't working, Lomax took on our line time after time last night and no wonder, nobody moved up and closed him down, same with LMS. In big games this year when we have gone behind, Wane doesnt seem to know how to change it, Wire away was a classic example, we were getting 2 men in the tackle, they were hitting the floor at immediate impact and killing us with fast play the balls, everybody could see what was happening and yet we came out for the second half and continued to not get 3 men in the tackle and slow them down, low and behold, we shipped 30+ points. The semi final, again, we never recovered from an early onslaught and nothing seemed to change second half. IMO we looked far, far better drilled under Maguire, maybe he should have stuck to what Madge taught them rather than being "his own man" and all this "il do it my way" b0llocks he keeps coming out with.

He'll be in the job for another 5 years though dont worry..............."he's a Wiganer" the fans choice.

Has anyone told you to?

I think you'll find you posted Saints by 18 before Good Friday?

So I got a score prediction wrong, whats your point? That was also the last time I posted anything.

I wasn't responding to your Saints Good Friday comment, hence why I didnt quote it, I was replying to your "nobody moaned about Wane April to July" comment, the bit that was quoted, to which I explained why I didnt want him to get the job from day one, I think he'll take us backwards over the next couple of seasons.

im going to get pilloried for this....but here goes.

IF as seems likely he gets a 2 match ban....i wouldnt mind losing next week so he'll be back for the semis

scenario 1...week 1 beat Cats/Rhinos
week 2 frr
week 3 club call...saints or Rhinos in ko football? with Tommy/smith/logan/lockers at 9

scenario 2...week 1 lose to cats/rhinos
week 2 home game v hudds,hull,wakey,bulls
week 3 saints/leeds/cats away...with micky at 9

ill take scenario 2 thank you

Scenario 1 with Tommy at 9 please. Thanks

You want to go to Saints or Leeds away after playing 2 home games one after the other? Are you mad? Rather than play 2 home games with a week off inbetween?

Dont worry if its scenario 2, Micky Mac will probably get sent off, he's already done it 3 times this year.

No way.

Sadly I doubt it.

Many, many times. But not for about 30 years.

If the U20's win today and their next two games, then McIlorums ban (if it's two games) wil only effectively be one first team game as the U20 game would count.

He got what he deserved simple sending off, he is a thug and always has been. If it had been ryan bailey there
would be people on this forum calling for a lifetime ban. As for Mr Childs I dont rate him and this is not the game I would have selected him to ref. However, I think it was the best performance of refereeing I have seen from him since his debut at Hull KR several years ago. Thought he was exellent and as a neutral fan overall reffed the game very well. 3 reds for MM this year says it all............simples.

As for Shaun Wane he should keep it shut, Tony Smith would have diverted the question when asked and stated 'have have not had chance to see the replay' As for Wane he is a passionate Wiganer but on many occasions this year some of his comments have been disrespectful at times to other teams and 'arrogant' it
will all come back to haunt him trust me it always does.

As for Wigans style of play some posters are correct on here, Tony Smith will always out coach Wigan because he is a better Coach at this time compared to Shaun Wane. Wigan are too predictible in attack with dummy runners and Sam on the loop every time. Theres no plan B. And a lot of teams are now taking advantage of Sams weakness under the high ball.

I thinK Tommy to hooker is a better option for Wigan in the play off so you wont miss MM when he gets a 3 match ban.

Best off luck in the play offs though all the same and I look forward to seeing you all DWD for the eliminator against Leeds.