How many other teams can say that they will be four or five (Mossop, Prescott, Hock, Hansen, Tuscon), definite starting forwards missing and it doesn't seem that much of an issue? I can't think of any.

didnt huddersfield beat us with that sort of number out. just saying.

How has the guy that started the whole thing (LMS) got off scott free? How has the guy that was trying to fight EVERYONE only got 3 games? How has Wilkin not kopped a ban for those high shots?

Hock was only cited for punching, not the pushing in the scrum, so as LMS didn't throw a punch, it seems fair to me.

And as for Wilkin, god only knows how he gets away with it all the time, but if he's going to play like he did on Sunday vs Hull, I hope he gets to stay in for the full 80!

We could appeal and say they are all called Ryan Bailey ?

Put a Bailey face mask on them all.


That would fool the idiots at Red Hall.

Sure to get off then!

Agreed. Surprised he didn't get the bottle of champagne after the game...

He'd have got my vote

Just an observation, but overall, we don't seen to unhappy with the treatment we have rec'd from Red Hall. Its very quiet on the Stains board, they really have wound their necks in

From my recollection, Hock & LMS exchange pats on the head (Hock gives his first though) before Hock then does a 360 degree head rub. He follows this by taking hold of LMS's head, pulling it towards him and rubbing his forehead into it (at this point one of the Sky numpties mentions 'doing a Barton'). All finished off by Hock hooking one arm behind the neck/head of LMS and bringing up several punches.....ahhh yes, I see where LMS was housing now......

A terrific first half Pie-Gobbler performance over-shadowed by the fight.

It STILL looks to me as though after they stand up and are having a push and a shove that LMS throws his head in Hocks direction (granted he misses). THAT is when Hock starts throwing punches and who would blame him.

Type 'Wigan V St Helens Magic Weekend Brawl That Resulted In 3 Red Cards' into that well known video site and it's around the 1:31 mark when you can clearly see LMS throw his head in Hocks direction. At that point it all goes off as Gaz starts throwing and George comes in as well.

First time i have seen it from that angle 100% LMS tries to stick one on Hock. How the RFL have not picked that up defies belief.

Sorry being silly. RFL , they did pick it up and chose to do nothing.

I dont see how Hock can get 2 games and Tuson only 1. Both players acted in retaliation but Tuson threw about 725 punches and Hock about 6?

Wane seemed like he wasnt happy with the Hock one and was considering appealing after speaking to our solicitors on his interview on sky last night. Not sure when we will find out about that though.

LMS was the one who started trying to rough Hock up in the scrum in the first place. It appears to me that Hock's hand is on LMS to push him away as LMS is constantly pushing his head towards him. It only seems to be replaying it from the head roll of Hock, completely missing the bit before by LMS.

Cracking picture. Finch looks like he's about to cry.

Wilkin trying his best to look involved

The caption is a bit out of order though: "Had an eyeful: Wigan's Chris Tuson (3rd L) is gouged by St Helens' Shaun Magennis"