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| Yeah maybe about the money however, only in the short term. Sam Tomkins is clearly ambitious and proving himself in England at the Union World Cup with all the added benefits would be a massive incentive and to do this he would have to switch within the next season or at the latest the season after that. If he missed this deadline his value would decrease and he would have missed the boat financially. I do not think people appreciate just how much the RFU want the 2015 competition to be successful both on the field and off. Tomkins would be a poster boy for England and his profile would match that of all the major stars from the Southern Hemisphere and those here. Unfortunately neither Wigan or England league can live with this regardless of the money situation. The RFU could and would if they believed it to be correct throw a silly amount of money on the table and Sam Tomkins would leave at the end of the Four Nations and Wigan would be powerless to stop him.
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| Quote: blackfrost "Yeah maybe about the money however, only in the short term. Sam Tomkins is clearly ambitious and proving himself in England at the Union World Cup with all the added benefits would be a massive incentive and to do this he would have to switch within the next season or at the latest the season after that. If he missed this deadline his value would decrease and he would have missed the boat financially. I do not think people appreciate just how much the RFU want the 2015 competition to be successful both on the field and off. Tomkins would be a poster boy for England and his profile would match that of all the major stars from the Southern Hemisphere and those here. Unfortunately neither Wigan or England league can live with this regardless of the money situation. The RFU could and would if they believed it to be correct throw a silly amount of money on the table and Sam Tomkins would leave at the end of the Four Nations and Wigan would be powerless to stop him.'"
Dont talk daft he has a contract and it is worth something before people come on churping about it not being worth the papper its written on, if wigan didn't agree a transfer fee you really think the RFU would allow them selves to look like idiots be registering the player and giving rugby league more publicity? also allowing them selfs to be open to law suit? (que the person who knows all the precedents on this even with out studying law) if Sam really want's to go and WIGAN dont want to stand hes way then he can go but if WIGAN say no he wont be going. its about time a rugby league club looked at tottenham and modric saga for some good advice put the rfu through it once they wont come back.
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| Great to see himn put in a good display today, ended with 4 tries but in reality he could of had double that if Sinfield stopped passing to the player stood next to him, and forgetting we have a second phase of runners.
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| Glad the England fans got behind the lad too today, it was a pleasure to watch him today.
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| Full page article about Sam in today's Sunday Times. The piece is written by the paper's chief sports writer, who suggests Tomkins may be the best English player in either code. Interestingly, there's very little in the way of speculation regarding immediate interest from union sides. I'd imagine the writer is pretty well connected with union types and would know if any offers were likely to be made in the short term - and I suspect he'd mention it if there were, as without it the article's a bit bland TBH.
For Sam's part, he states that he's contracted for two more years with a further two year option. He states that he may play either union or in the NRL in the future but for now is concentrating solely on being successful with Wigan and England. I'd post a link but I think all the Times articles can only be read by subscribers (unless, of course, you buy the paper).
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| Quote: Clearwing "Full page article about Sam in today's Sunday Times. The piece is written by the paper's chief sports writer, who suggests Tomkins may be the best English player in either code. Interestingly, there's very little in the way of speculation regarding immediate interest from union sides. I'd imagine the writer is pretty well connected with union types and would know if any offers were likely to be made in the short term - and I suspect he'd mention it if there were, as without it the article's a bit bland TBH.
For Sam's part, he states that he's contracted for two more years with a further two year option. He states that he may play either union or in the NRL in the future but for now is concentrating solely on being successful with Wigan and England. I'd post a link but I think all the Times articles can only be read by subscribers (unless, of course, you buy the paper).'"
I would agree with him ashton is there stand out player and i would actually say myler is a better support player than him. tomkins is twice the player i wouldn't be to upset if he went to the Nrl if he wanted to earn more money and make a name for him self over there.
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| He still got boo'd by quite a few numpties in the North Stand yesterday
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| Quote: Katrina "He still got boo'd by quite a few numpties in the North Stand yesterday
They were Welsh fans weren't they? It's fine to boo the opposition IMO. I'll probably be booing Billy Slater at Wembley. He's an arrogant toad. I remember his grin at Elland Road in 2009 when we'd just lost Shenton and the fight went out of us. He was making hay and each time they scored he would come back to stand in front of where I was sitting. I would see that grin and want to slap him! I'd have no problem booing him after that!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "They were Welsh fans weren't they? It's fine to boo the opposition IMO. I'll probably be booing Billy Slater at Wembley. He's an arrogant toad. I remember his grin at Elland Road in 2009 when we'd just lost Shenton and the fight went out of us. He was making hay and each time they scored he would come back to stand in front of where I was sitting. I would see that grin and want to slap him! I'd have no problem booing him after that!'"
I really don't think they were, there were too many booing for it to be Wales fans.
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| Quote: Katrina "I really don't think they were, there were too many booing for it to be Wales fans.'"
There were quite a few Welsh fans around actually. Mostly in one section of the North Stand but I had a bunch sitting behind me in the East.
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| It will be interesting to see what tactics the Aussies use against him next week.
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| All the leythers strongly supported Sam yesterday-he was a pleasure to watch
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| Quote: Cake maker "All the leythers strongly supported Sam yesterday-he was a pleasure to watch'"
Sam's well liked at Leigh, he come to most of our Games, and Leythers know a good player when we see one, which in our league isn't very often.
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| Quote: Gary High "THE SALARY CAP IS KILLING RUGBY LEAGUE, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
Until it is increased/removed Union will poach all our best players. If they don't then the NRL will.'"
Ok , so the salary cap is removed tomorrow. Could English RL teams compete with Union or NRL salary wise? I doubt it and certainly not in a sustainable manner. The odd club with sugar daddys would be ok until said person pulled the plug or went bust etc etc then they'd go to the wall. If for example Wigan matched a union offer of say 400k a year for Sam Tomkins it wouldnt be long before other players at the club would be looking for pay rises and Wigan would end up like they have in the past paying large amounts of cash to average workhorse players like Mick Cassidy ..
The salary cap needs to be looked at but in my view needs to be kept.
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| The SC hasnt and never will make clubs well run businesses, it wont, hasnt and never will give directors the financial discipline they need to run an RL club sustainably, there is a list of precedents as long as my arm which show that.
There is space and a place for rules which keep the game competitive, but the idea that allowing Wigan to pay Tomkins a competitive wage to keep him in this code would lead to them paying huge amounts to below par players is mental.
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