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Quote: MattyB "hahahahahahahaha...............
My (and a multitude of others) thoughts also.
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Quote: saintnickle34 "Wellens Tomkins Wellens
2. Gardner Goulding Same
3. Shenton Gleeson Shenton
4. Wheeler Carmont Same
5. Meli Roberts Meli
6. Pryce Deacon Pryce
7. Eastmond Lieuleui Eastmond
8. Scarsbrook Lima Unsure.Not seen enough of lima
9. Roby Mcillorum Roby
10. Graham Coley Graham
11. Soliola Tomkins Soliola
12. Flannery Hoffman Hoffman
13. Wilkin O loughlin Same
14. Moore Prescott Same
15. Clough mossop Clough
16. Puletua Tuson Puletua
17. Dixon Farrell same

I would only take Lima out of your 17'"

icon_biggrin.gif That gave me a laugh, untill i realised you may be serious icon_eek.gif

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Quote: saintnickle34 "

7. Eastmond Lieuleui Eastmond

'"



This was the classic one for me.
Kyle Eastmond - A young player with plenty of potential but a player suffering with biscuit bones who missed half of last season, coming out on top against the current Harry Sunderland Trophy Holder, Current Four Nations & World Cup winner.

Bias of biblical proportions. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Okay rather than call you out on your idiocy, i'll actually question you on the points that I feel need clarifying

Ok then i will respond.
Firstly Meli and roberts.Meli has been ever present in the last 3 seasons for saints scoring regularly over 15 tries a season and helping them to the last 4 grand finals and numerous challenge cup finals.Roberts had a great opening third of the season last year ,but that is all.Before last season he was average as were most of wigans players .

Leululei and Eastmond.I saw leuileui for new zealand in the world cup and he was moved to hooker in the games because he was ineffective in the scrum half role( i think hes a better hooker,but not in robys league).Eastmond because of his age only burst on the scene last year and when fit showed the true potential that he had .Some of the tries he scored where sensational and if he can keep fit will become one of the best we have had.

Lima and Louis .I have not seen that much of lima but by all acounts he could be a great player for wigan .Time will tell (as it will with lms ,perry and soliola)

Sean O'Loughlin and Wilkin.We will have to agree to disagree here as sean has had one really good season and you won the grand final .But to say that he is the best loose forward in the world is ludricous.a good club captain who tackles hard ,but like tomkins he is a penalty machine whose discipline is woeful.

As for Farrel time will tell..

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You win.

We're $hit, you're brilliant.
MM tickets on the fire, coach cancelled.
Get on the phone to the bookies, tell them they're wrong.

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Quote: MattyB "You win.

We're $hit, you're brilliant.
MM tickets on the fire, coach cancelled.
Get on the phone to the bookies, tell them they're wrong.'"


NO.One good season from wigan and all of a sudden you are the Best side ever again. Nobody else better bother turning up !!

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Quote: saintnickle34 "NO.One good season from wigan and all of a sudden you are the Best side ever again. Nobody else better bother turning up !!'"



wow, wow, wow...........you're the one coming out with silly suggestions of just one Wigan player being deemed good enough to get into the Saints team. eusa_hand.gif

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One thing recent history will tell you that Saints will be competitive again and will be there and thereabouts.

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I'd prefer a much more balanced view from a Saints supporter

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Quote: saintnickle34 "
Sean O'Loughlin and Wilkin.We will have to agree to disagree here as sean has had one really good season and you won the grand final .But to say that he is the best loose forward in the world is ludricous.a good club captain who tackles hard ,but like tomkins he is a penalty machine whose discipline is woeful.
'"


So why is it that Wilkin gave away 7 more penalties in 8 less games than Lockers last year?

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Lima and Louis .I have not seen that much of lima but by all acounts he could be a great player for wigan .Time will tell (as it will with lms ,perry and soliola)
'"


So had you seen that much of Soliola then? As Lima was also a proven NRL performer and a NZ international, and that seemed to be enough to make Soliola better than Tomkins (despite SS looking pretty average in his brief appearances at the end of last year) whilst also playing out of position.

Quote: saintnickle34 "
Leululei and Eastmond.I saw leuileui for new zealand in the world cup and he was moved to hooker in the games because he was ineffective in the scrum half role( i think hes a better hooker,but not in robys league).Eastmond because of his age only burst on the scene last year and when fit showed the true potential that he had .Some of the tries he scored where sensational and if he can keep fit will become one of the best we have had.
'"


Only burst onto the scene in the last year? Is that 2010 or supposed to be 2009? He made 13 apps in 08, 14 in 09 and 19 last year. I agree he's showed glimpses of pure talent, but he's not done it on anywhere a consistent enough basis, whether thats through form or fitness I don't know. He's not been the all-conquering team leader that it was hoped by this stage (although I hope he becomes it).

Quote: saintnickle34 "Ok then i will respond.
Firstly Meli and roberts.Meli has been ever present in the last 3 seasons for saints scoring regularly over 15 tries a season and helping them to the last 4 grand finals and numerous challenge cup finals.Roberts had a great opening third of the season last year ,but that is all.Before last season he was average as were most of wigans players .
'"


So despite Roberts having a pretty good scoring record in the NRL as well, because he had 1 (that's right, 1!) average year before last year when he was destined to be heading to MOS before his injury struck. If he's fit I know who I'd have in my side.

Oh, and also Roberts' "average" year, wasn't that bad compared to Meli's consistent performances that year! rlWho was average?rl

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Quote: MattyB "I'd prefer a much more balanced view from a Saints supporter:

Good luck!!

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Quote: tugglesf78 "My (and a multitude of others) thoughts also.

Me too, I can see this thread being resurrected on quite a regular basis icon_lol.gif

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Quote: saintnickle34 "One thing recent history will tell you that Saints will be competitive again and will be there and thereabouts.'"



When has anyone said they wouldn't be? I expect it to be very close this year between Saints, Wigan + Wire.

I was merely responding to your completely blinkered claims about the ability of some of your players.

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If I am being honest you guys are the team to beat,no doubt.
The new signings you guys have made have strengthened your team by quite a bit and you deservedly won the league last season.
If I was a Wigan fan and didn't win one of the two trophies on offer I would be bitterly disappointed.

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If I am being honest you guys are the team to beat,no doubt.
The new signings you guys have made have strengthened your team by quite a bit and you deservedly won the league last season.
If I was a Wigan fan and didn't win one of the two trophies on offer I would be bitterly disappointed.

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