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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
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I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Dropping Evans for a less talented player after one poor game isn't a sensible approach and thankfully it's not an approach that has been shared by the England selectors.'"
Your right all the other threequaters in the squad obviously aren't worthy of chance of representing their country, no matter how hard they train or how badly Evan's plays. I know you'll find dropping players who are playing poorly hard, after all you are a Saint's fan and have had to put up with Meli in your team for ever so long.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "Your right all the other threequaters in the squad obviously aren't worthy of chance of representing their country, no matter how hard they train or how badly Evan's plays. I know you'll find dropping players who are playing poorly hard, after all you are a Saint's fan and have had to put up with Meli in your team for ever so long.'"
Wow, that's poor. Selective quoting too, good work.
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Wow, that's poor. Selective quoting too, good work.'"
Thnx I new you'd like it.
I'm at work at present, so I'm juggling a few things.
I'll tell you what ,I'll put work aside for five minutes and write you a proper response.
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: FearTheVee "No Sam Tomkins for England next year then eh? He was the very definition of "fail to shine" in the 4N was he not?'"
Well that comes down to opinions, and mine ain't the same as your's in regards to Tomkins. He did as well as he could considering what he was working with.
Quote: FearTheVee "He's clearly worthy of his place in the team and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best player on the park tonight. Everyone is entitled to a poor performance - players like Evans need to be nurtured properly; he's a real talent, just like Tomkins.
Dropping Evans (or Tomkins) for a less talented player after one poor game (or a few in Tomkins' case) isn't a sensible approach and thankfully it's not an approach that has been shared by the England selectors.'"
If the next in line is good enough they should get there chance. Now if that's not the case then that's a sad indictment for U18's British Rugby League that were still struggling for outside backs (which I suspect is the truth). If a player plays poorly and there's a replacement waiting in the wings who's good enough they should play. It's through competition for places where players are forced to improve, if a players assured of there position in a team week in week out then they'll never strive to improve.
Whilst Wigan were under Noble their were regulars who were guaranteed a spot in the 17 no matter how poorly they'd performed in the past. Now when compared with Maguire who selects on form as opposed to the name on the back of a shirt, there's only one winner. One method won us a SL trophy the other didn't.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "If a player plays poorly and there's a replacement waiting in the wings who's good enough they should play. It's through competition for places where players are forced to improve, if a players assured of there position in a team week in week out then they'll never strive to improve.'"
It's a false argument though. Evans earned his shirt through his performances over a period of time. He had one poor game, but has still earned his shirt and has still proven himself to be worthy of selection in that position. One game doesn't change that. Players don't get dropped for one poor game after prolonged periods of being the stand-out player; not by Maguire or by any coach worth a bean.
The England coach IS selecting on form - the form that made Evans one of the hottest prospects in RL. One relatively poor performance by his standards does not change that. It's nonsensical knee-jerking of the type we do so well in British RL.
Quote: LovesToSpooge "Whilst Wigan were under Noble their were regulars who were guaranteed a spot in the 17 no matter how poorly they'd performed in the past. Now when compared with Maguire who selects on form as opposed to the name on the back of a shirt, there's only one winner. One method won us a SL trophy the other didn't.'"
It's not comparable. "no matter how poorly they'd performed in the past" doesn't apply to Evans.
Do you think Maguire would drop Sam after one poor game, or do you think he'd realise he's a talented player and had an off day?
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| surely players are judged on their present performance not on previous Ive watched both these players when they were amateurs playing for their local clubs , burtonwood the twins also seen Reece at hull when he played in the national cup . it was men against boys maybe they have leveled out
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Evans has one bad game and should be dropped? He could be the most talented young outside back in the country. Behave. Most people will have heard what a talent he is. Dropping a player is not done from one game but a series of bad form.
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[b:1br14l5m][color=#800000:1br14l5m]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
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WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011 & 2012
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| Half Time : England 22 Aus 4
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| Where are you getting the scores from
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| Quote: The Clan "Where are you getting the scores from'"
I'm gonna have a wild guess and say the LSV scoreboard...
How are our lads doing?
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| Quote: Geoff "I'm gonna have a wild guess and say the LSV scoreboard...
yeah thats great for those west of the Pennines but some of us have been denied the chance to watch the game live.
Any chance of someone posting a link to the updates?
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[b:1br14l5m][color=#800000:1br14l5m]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 & 2019
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011 & 2012
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| Quote: The Clan "Where are you getting the scores from'"
I'm at the match.
England cruising at 26-4 on 50 minutes but a few decisions against us and we're hanging on a bit now 26-16. 60 mins gone.
Edit - Rhys Evans just gone in for a cracking solo try. 32-16
geoff - Sam Powells had a good game, scored the first try.
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| Thanks MattyB,
Keep em coming please
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: MattyB "
Edit - Rhys Evans just gone in for a cracking solo try. 32-16
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Anyone got any humble pie I can choke on.
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[b:1br14l5m][color=#800000:1br14l5m]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
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WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011 & 2012
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| 32-22 Trent Jennings Try (70 mins)
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