Then Langley?

I'd take Langley everytime tbh. He's big, strong and has a great engine and looks just about ready for the step up to fulltime prop forward to me.

I'm a fan of LMS but he'd need alot more work then Langley would and would be more of a gamble imo.

I know people point to Fielden’s work rate but for me i'd be happy to replace some of that with a better go forward player like Lima. Thats not to say Fielden doesn’t do ok with the ball in hand but i'd like a prop who does more.

I prefer my props to make a lot more yards than they do tackles and as long as they are defensively sound and can put in a good stint it's fine by me.

Take for example James Graham, now I know he's the bench mark for all the props in SL but he's not as good defensively as Fielden is but his go forward is such that combined with a good defence he’s a top draw player.

Phelps has to be kept hold of. Before his injury he was the best 1 at the club and his improvement since he first signed is nothing short of staggering. The fact we’ve still not played him in his first position means that he’s got a lot more to come. I can’t see the benefit of letting him go. The quota maybe coming down all the time but also the chances of signing top draw Aussies are as well. Phelps has to stay.

Feka offers something that no other player in SL can. He’s worked hard this off season and done what’s asked of him and his performances of late have been vintage Feka only with better defence as well. Any team that he signs for he will improve and I’d hate to see his talents go to another club.

I’d personally see Lima as a starting prop like Fielden and not an impact player like Feka.

I'm sure if we make Carmont available another team would offer him a 2 year deal probably on more money than he's on at Wigan. A team like Wakey or Cas would kill for a professional, skill full and experienced player like that on their books.

We must stop agreeing

Scruton & Lima in, Fielden & Feka out
Ratchford & Vatuvai in, Bailey, Pryce, Deacon & Mcilorum out

1. Roberts
2. Richards
3. Gleeson
4. Goulding
5. Vatuvai
6. Tomkins
7. Ratchford
8. Scruton
9. Piggy
10. Lima
11. Mossop
12. Tomkins
13. Lockers

14. Lulu
15. Phelps
16. Coley
17. Prescott/O'carroll

Hock nowhere near the club as he goes to HKR

Fielden is a far better player than Scruton

1- Roberts
2- Goulding
3- Gleeson
4- Carmont
5- Richards
6- S.Tomkins
7- Finch
8- Fielden
9- Riddell
10- Coley
11- Pritchard
12- Tomkins
13- O'Loughlin

Bench From- Leuluai, Feka, Hock, O'Carroll, Prescott, McIllorum, Hansen.

Phelps, Bailey and Pryce gone. Fielden and Feka on a much reduced deal.

Pritchard and Hock to play prop against small teams and second row against the big teams.

Fully agree, Lima is a lot more similar to Feka (with the additional attributes specified) than he is to Fielden.

Just a curious point, Graham is making marginally less metres per carry than Fielden this season, but sees far far far more carries.

Lima is far more of a starting prop than Feka.

Not very many people can compare to Feka in what he’s does. Fui Fui Moi Moi is probably the closest but even then i wouldn’t swap him for Feka. I know that will shock some but I really think Feka is a seriously underused player at Wigan.

Lima would be more than capable of being a starting prop, something which Feka struggles with, and if he’s gonna replace anyone then it should be one of our starting props in Coley or Fielden.

It certainly shouldn’t be Coley who is a better player to Fielden and has been for the past 1 and a half seasons, is currently in better form, is on less money and fills a crucial leadership role in the side as well. If we lose Coley we lose a massive hole in our side.

Sadly although Fielden is having a mini revival in form he’s the one I’d get rid of if I was looking at replacing a prop in our squad.

Next season I'd like to see:

1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Gleeson
4. Phelps (he'd need a game or two there during the season but for me he's a stand off/centre)
5. Richards
6. Sam
7. Leuluai
8. SIGNING (Someone who makes big metres and doesn't take any shiz)
9. Riddell
10. Coley (he's got a year in him yet)
11. Hansen
12. Joel
13. O'Loughlin

14. Fielden (if we can get him on the right contract, if not keep Feka for a year and see what we can make of him)
15. McIllorum
16. O'Carroll
17. Mossop

18. Fans
19. Farrell
20. Prescott
21. Ainscough
22. Marsh
23. Tuson
24. Walker
25. Davies
26. Charnley
27. Vievers
28. Mellor
29. Thormley
30. Holland

We just have different views on the game and what we'd like for a team that's all, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I still personally favour when playing with a 4 prop rotation, having 4 who can be interchanged and not lose out in any of the areas, i.e. a fresh pair of legs rather than a 'something different', at least when taken as a 2+2 setup. If I have a 60 minute+ prop, or play with a 3rd one on the bench then i'm more inclined to fit in a Feka.

Just different styles thats all.

What's Neil Holland like? I've just noticed he's our only over-aged player who hasn't had a game for the first team, and I've heard more about Davies than him. Do people think he will make it eventually?

I dunno tbh, Rogues?

Davies is looking quality though.

Nothing wrong with that mate.

I don't think we should re-sign Phelps. Amos Roberts is the best fullback in the side and is more suited at fullback than he is on the wing. Phelps simply isn't as good as him. He isn't good enough on the wing or at centre and wont take six from Sam.

We have enough cover with the young lads - Stefan Marsh and Karl Pryce both picked ahead of him - and so we don't need to use up a quota spot for a utility player.

A nice lad, always gives his best and has a smile on his face, but that isn't a good enough reason to keep hold of him.