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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "The only evidence thats present on here is that you are the biggest w@nker thats ever graced these message boards.
You are the internet version of Pollard - What i say is right otherwise ill speak to you like your thick.
I gave up ages ago trying to get it into your numb head that just because somebody has a different view than you on something does not mean they are thick or stupid as you like to call people.
If i choose to dislike IL then that is my choice. The fact that you cannot live with it shows that there is only one pillock on here and that is YOU.'"
Does anyone else on here see the irony of the highlighted comment?
There's no real answer to that level of stupidity. But I'm not going to get into a prolonged slanging match with you.
You clearly don't like personal abuse, in which case let's hope you've learned something from this episode.
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| Grow up?
Have you read some of the vitriolic you've posted?
Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Thanks for nothing Ian Lenegan, i hope your new appointment makes a final next year otherwise your going to look like the t055er i always thought you was from day one.'"
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IMO hes nothing but a surly,obnoxious and sly little man who loves himself. I cannot stand the sight of the man and last night when he walked on the pitch looking up to our end i felt sick.'"
Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Whats he going to do about it?'"
Well i imagine he'd have several options open to him like most people, knock your teeth out, take you to court, or maybe even ban you from ever going to a game again? But clearly your dislike for him is so strong as to make any of that worth it to you right?
I've got no problem with you disliking him, you could just say 'I don't like the bloke'.
I really wish the moderators would do something about that type of post, as you're sailing very close to defamation.
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| According to folk in the anvil last night IL hasnt paid Whelen what hes owes him and we could go back under Whelen control. Dont know how true it is, suppose time will tell.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "
Well i imagine he'd have several options open to him like most people, knock your teeth out, take you to court, or maybe even ban you from ever going to a game again? But clearly your dislike for him is so strong as to make any of that worth it to you right?
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LOL at all his options available!
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| Quote: Cruncher "
Lets hope youve learned something too. Lets hope youve learned to keep your dummy firmly in your mouth in future when you read something that doesnt quite match your views.
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| Quote: Bill_Barlow "According to folk in the anvil last night IL hasnt paid Whelen what hes owes him and we could go back under Whelen control. Dont know how true it is, suppose time will tell.'"
That was going around in August when I was back home.
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| Quote: Nick NJ "Since noble and lenaghan have been in charge the squad is much stronger and it's young, salary cap monies is more wisely spent, our youth teams are booming and getting a chance, marketing and other business areas have improved.
Some ppl will continue to moan about red herrings, but the fact is the club has moved forward a lot since the mess it was 3 years ago. Noble leaves us in a strong position.'"
younger yes...stronger no.
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| Whilst other clubs seem to be going from strength to strength with signing for 2010 we have sat back and in reality are going to have the same squad as this season. IL has made it very clear that we can expect no signings for next season, he seems to be obessed with filling the side with local players. A team full of Wiganers is his vision. Although this would nice, and no doubt would made everyone proud. We simply wont challenge for anything with this attitude.
We are 2 or 3 world class players away from becoming title worthy.
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| One thing Lenaghan has done well is make sure we do not break the salary cap every year. The annual points deductions for breaking the rules were an embarrassment.
Criticising signings is one thing but let's be honest nobody on here knows for certain whether Lenaghan or Noble was the driving force behind recruitment for the last couple of seasons. It's the kind of thing that will be easier to judge of Lenaghan stays for the long term and works with a few different coaches.
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| Quote: Stretford "One thing Lenaghan has done well is make sure we do not break the salary cap every year. The annual points deductions for breaking the rules were an embarrassment.
Criticising signings is one thing but let's be honest nobody on here knows for certain whether Lenaghan or Noble was the driving force behind recruitment for the last couple of seasons. It's the kind of thing that will be easier to judge of Lenaghan stays for the long term and works with a few different coaches.'"
you cannot break the cap anymore because its live so he hasnt done a lot with that really.
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| Live is a very interesting term to be honest. What the current cap does do is base things on estimates, assumptions, and blocks of payment. There's actually quite a bit of scope to pay out more than the £1.6 million but still not actually 'break' it.
e.g. a £1000 per appearance bonus can either count as £18,000 (the assumption used should be 18 qualifying matches) or if you pay the same amount as £7,000 per 7 games, it's only £14,000 as there's only 2 blocks of 7 in the 18.
You can also pay more if you win things, as competition prize money can be exempt.
And manage to be fairly substantially less than the current NRL cap.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Live is a very interesting term to be honest. What the current cap does do is base things on estimates, assumptions, and blocks of payment. There's actually quite a bit of scope to pay out more than the £1.6 million but still not actually 'break' it.'"
if you pay more you break it...
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| I don't want us to spending up to the salray cap if unless we have top quality players. No more days of average Aussies earning ridiculous wages.
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| Quote: {Hogan} "Whilst other clubs seem to be going from strength to strength with signing for 2010 we have sat back and in reality are going to have the same squad as this season. IL has made it very clear that we can expect no signings for next season, he seems to be obessed with filling the side with local players. A team full of Wiganers is his vision. Although this would nice, and no doubt would made everyone proud. We simply wont challenge for anything with this attitude.
We are 2 or 3 world class players away from becoming title worthy.'"
This is exactly my point. Why couldnt Noble of been given the 2 or 3 players?
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| Quote: pedro17 "if you pay more you break it...'"
No, if you pay more than the estimate you don't break it i'm afraid. or save anything for paying less. Providing you've followed the estimation and assumption rules.
"5.3.2 Amount Actually Received By The Player, ie the aggregate value of salary and other benefits actually received by the Player during the Salary Cap Year. In most cases, part of the Salary Cap Value of a Player will be a notional value, determined on the basis of a number of assumptions. Whether or not such notional value proves to be an accurate assessment of the actual value received by the Player during the Salary Cap Year is irrelevant: the Salary Cap Value will not be recalculated because the actual value of the benefit in question turns out to be greater than or smaller than its notional value."
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