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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I hope this post isn't referring to me, to which crunchers original post was. I like you for a very good reason was unable to attend this evening, and I'll state for a second time that my problem is not with the questions asked but the answers given. As for this keyboard warrior crap I think your trying to imply, not at all it's simply a case of being disappointed with some of the answers.'"


It was a generlisation, but a correct one.

IL I believe hit out at the assassination of some players on here by certain posters without reason.

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Quote: jonh "Why the hell would he look at Hunt?

Its statements like this that casue me real concern.

We need forwards and Hunt was never ever a realistic target so why name him as one?!'"


In the context of what he said it made perfect sense, I personally can't be d trying to explain it. I think KH was used as an example of how quality on the field has costs that are not always worth paying in the grand scheme of things. IL alluded to other Aus players (none named) who are now with English clubs that he chose not to sign because of issues he found while completing "due dilligence". IL suspects those clubs may regret their decisions in the fullness of time.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "IL I believe hit out eat the assassination of some players on here by certain posters without reason.'"



But didn't IL do exactly the same in the press and slate our players performances?

Contradicting himself?

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "I hope this post isn't referring to me, to which crunchers original post was. I like you for a very good reason was unable to attend this evening, and I'll state for a second time that my problem is not with the questions asked but the answers given. As for this keyboard warrior crap I think your trying to imply, not at all it's simply a case of being disappointed with some of the answers.'"


I think we need a new categorisation system for fans that go to the fans forum and ask a difficult question.

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Quote: cadoo "But didn't IL do exactly the same in the press and slate our players performances?

Contradicting himself?'"


There is a massive difference between a post match interview where our players have not played well, and the character asassination that goes on here and on other forums on a daily basis.

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Quote: Dave T "That's an interesting one.I remember a few discussions at the time where anyone who discussed this was told it was no big deal getting a sponsor late on in the day. Clearly it is an issue. Hopefully (from a RL point of view) Mecca will renew their contract. They seem very proactive, and have extended their sponsorship throughout RL, which is very good for the game.

The nonsense about people not liking the logo, is just that.'"


IFL said since Wigan signed up Mecca as main sponsor various other super league clubs had contacted them looking for sponsorship.

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Quote: Rubber Buccaneer "In the context of what he said it made perfect sense, I personally can't be d trying to explain it. I think KH was used as an example of how quality on the field has costs that are not always worth paying in the grand scheme of things. IL alluded to other Aus players (none named) who are now with English clubs that he chose not to sign because of issues he found while completing "due dilligence". IL suspects those clubs may regret their decisions in the fullness of time.'"


So why name a player?

Hunt was never ever a realistic Wigan target, the fact he was mentioned smacks of a need to apease the fans to try to justify our failure in the transfer market when it seems we have backed a horse that was a non started in Webb.

I do think IFl will have a successful time at Wigan, but just like on the field his performance is just missing that something, that i am sure will come, but at the moment is just lacking.

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Quote: Dave T "That's an interesting one.I remember a few discussions at the time where anyone who discussed this was told it was no big deal getting a sponsor late on in the day. Clearly it is an issue. Hopefully (from a RL point of view) Mecca will renew their contract. They seem very proactive, and have extended their sponsorship throughout RL, which is very good for the game.

The nonsense about people not liking the logo, is just that.'"


Mecca are one five (I think) companies looking at sponsoring WRLFC next year, IL said that it was likely but not definate that they would be our sponsors next year (at least that's how I understood it). IL also highlighted that a number of clubs had been in contact with Mecca since their deal with us.

As for the logo....if I learnt anything tonight I learnt that if we were handed tenners at every home game there would be a section of our support that would complain that it wasn't twenties.

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Quote: Donna "There is a massive difference between a post match interview where our players have not played well, and the character asassination that goes on here and on other forums on a daily basis.'"


Disagree really. At the end of the day paper it up how you want but both are doing the same thing. Blasting the players.

rlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/article1486560.ecerl

Quote: Donna "In an astonishing outburst, Lenagan claims some players have no pride in the Wigan shirt and says there's no leadership in the team.

Lenagan has also accused the side of having no desire or passion.

Australian stand off Trent Barrett got singled out for flak, with Lenagan saying his "head's not there because he's leaving" soon. '"


Quote: Donna "They are

The above is not much different to what people post on these forums.

Like I said, paper it up how you want, if Ian Lenagan said the fans were a "disgrace" or referred to the fans as this or whatever for saying what they say about individual players performances then he is contradicting himself. Because last season he did it too.

Are we not entitled to an opinion? No matter whether you agree with it or not it's an independant site and we can post what we like. I'm not saying slating the players every week is okay but it is a funny comment for IL to make after his comments last year.

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Quote: jonh "So why name a player?

Hunt was never ever a realistic Wigan target, the fact he was mentioned smacks of a need to apease the fans to try to justify our failure in the transfer market when it seems we have backed a horse that was a non started in Webb.

I do think IFl will have a successful time at Wigan, but just like on the field his performance is just missing that something, that i am sure will come, but at the moment is just lacking.'"


Why not name a player ? It gives some indication of the calibre of player we've looked at. TBH I think if he'd not mentioned names we'd have had "well who did he look at? he's probably not looked at anyone significant and he's just appeasing us by telling us he's looked at top drawer players, if he had he'd be able to give us names".

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

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Quote: wigan_knight "Would like to know why were looking at a loss of 150k this year'"


2007 330,000 loss (before I Lenegan)

2008 320,000 loss ( just after he took over)

2009 150,000 projected loss (could be turned around if we make wembley)

so this is improved.

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Quote: cadoo "Disagree really. At the end of the day paper it up how you want but both are doing the same thing. Blasting the players.

rlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/article1486560.ecerl





The above is not much different to what people post on these forums.

Like I said, paper it up how you want, if Ian Lenagan said the fans were a "disgrace" or referred to the fans as this or whatever for saying what they say about individual players performances then he is contradicting himself. Because last season he did it too.

Are we not entitled to an opinion? No matter whether you agree with it or not it's an independant site and we can post what we like. I'm not saying slating the players every week is okay but it is a funny comment for IL to make after his comments last year.'"


So IFL criticised TB once in that post? And made a vague comment about "some" other players. And that is according to the paper??

I will stick with my opinion that the abuse Mathers got on here was shocking! He isn't the only one. There is a massive difference in criticising a players performance in a game, and the downright bullying that happens by some posters.

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Quote: Rubber Buccaneer "Why not name a player ? It gives some indication of the calibre of player we've looked at. TBH I think if he'd not mentioned names we'd have had "well who did he look at? he's probably not looked at anyone significant and he's just appeasing us by telling us he's looked at top drawer players, if he had he'd be able to give us names".

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.'"


Disagree, its ok to look but Hunt was never a realistic Wigan signinging, we may as well say we were looking at Inglis, smacks of a desperate play for credibility when in truth we cannot recruit a good coach nor can we attract the right type of player.

The fact Hunt was even mentioned is a joke, especially considering his apparent statement about the cap and also the fact we are so lacking in forwards.

Will be interesting to see the media take on the events of tonight as to me me the only thing worth them reporting is the fact "Wigan try to Snare Hunt".

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It was a generlisation, but a correct one.

IL I believe hit out at the assassination of some players on here by certain posters without reason.'"


icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif Like we have had NO reason to critisise players like Mathers, Fielden, Pryce, Roberts etc?!?! To continue with the analogy you can only throw so much ammunition before people start to use it to assassinate you!!!

Richie Mathers presented every fan with a proverbial Rocket Launcher and Tank when he was here, as has Karl Pryce.....what does he want us to do with it?

The fact that we have so much ammo and use it cant be blamed on the fans, it must be blamed on the coaching staff who are letting players blatently not up to Wigan standard tarnish the shirt!

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Quote: Donna "So IFL criticised TB once in that post? And made a vague comment about "some" other players. And that is according to the paper??

I will stick with my opinion that the abuse Mathers got on here was shocking! He isn't the only one. There is a massive difference in criticising a players performance in a game, and the downright bullying that happens by some posters.'"



I may not have agreed with the comments but again I think if professional rugby players are affected by what the fans post on an internet forum they are seriously in thw wrong game.

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