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Quote: MadDogg "Could be looking at both Mossop and Farrell in the 17 next week, one in fact will probably start with Bailey and Tomkins.

Not really sure what to do with the hooking role - I suppose you could play Leuluai there, move Phelps to the halves, Roberts to fullback and Ainscough/Pryce to the wings. Alternatively you could play Gleeson in the halves although I personally wouldn't do that.

Disappointing news with the injuries but exciting in a way that we'll see some new faces and a fresh structure to the side, be interesting to see how we cope. Certainly if there was one area to have an injury crisis, the second row would be the one where we're most able to cope.'"


Does anyone think we will recall goulding From salford.

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Quote: Tricky Dicky "Does anyone think we will recall goulding From salford.'"


Good Idea in terms of playing wise, Wether the Salary Cap will allow????
Although given the Hock situation that may relieve some funds soon.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I could see Noble going with K Pryce on the bench when Gleeson is back and doing a little re-jig when Riddell is ready to go off with Gleeson moving to 6, Pryce into the centres, Sam to 7 and Leuluai to 9.

I'd probably be most tempted to throw Flanagan onto the bench and let him have a shot at 9 though instead of shifting the whole side around.'"


i go with that, but i would put pryce at 6 and leave the backline alone.

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Quote: Jukesays "Good Idea in terms of playing wise, Wether the Salary Cap will allow????
Although given the Hock situation that may relieve some funds soon.'"


I still think unless we get more injuries in the threequaters Goulding wont return.

The team next week could be:

Phelps
Amos
Pryce ( Assuming Gleeson is still injured)
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Coley
Riddell
Preccy
Joel
Bailey
Flanagan

Feca
Fielden
Pryce ( If Gleeson is fit )
Mossop ( He must be recalled given we have 2 back rowers injured)

18 TH Man Farrell or Ainscough

Given Gleeson will probably return this would be ok. however, should Gleeson be injured surley Goulding will be recalled.

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I'd go with

Richards
Roberts
Gleeson/Pryce
Carmont
Ainscough
Phelps
Sam
Coley
Riddell
Prescott
Joel
Bailey
Flanagan

Tommy
Feka
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IMO Farrell and Flanagan are both ready for some first team exposure. Flanagan has always impressed me when I've seen him play at 6, he's got good hands. Would like to see him slot in as a straight replacement for Lockers on Friday.

Leave Mossop at Hudds for now, but he should be Hock's replacement for 2010.

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Personally I wouldn't like to move the backline round to much from number 1-5, past few games, they've seemed to bond well and all seem to play their prefered positions.

So keep

1 - Phelps
2 - Roberts
3 - Gleeson/Pryce
4 - Carmont/Pyrce
5 - Richards

Moving on to the 6 and 7 area. With Macca now being out of the frame for up to 8weeks, I suppose this means Tommy will be moved into the 9 area, interchanging with Riddell. From the start I'd expect Tommy to play the whole 80mins, starting games with.

6 - S. Tomkins
7 - Leulaui

9 - Riddell

Big risk, but would anyone give Stefan Marsh ago at the big time? Start him on the bench, after 20mins, introduce him to play.

6 - S. Marsh
7 - S. Tomkins

9 - Leulaui

I know it's a very very young 6/7/9 area at that point, but the bonds between Marsh and Tomkins are there from teh Reserves side.

The forward pack, I'm expecting Mossop to stay at Hudd. Giving Farrell and Flan ago.

8 - Coley
9 - Riddell
10 - Prescott
11 - Bailey
12 - J. Tomkins
13 - Flanagan

This is what Flanagan as been waiting for, not saying he's been waiting for Locker's to hurt himself, but the opportunity to show himself in the squad, about time he got ago. Farrell to come off the bench.

Bench being

Feka
Fielden
Farrell
Marsh

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Mark1987 "Personally I wouldn't like to move the backline round to much from number 1-5, past few games, they've seemed to bond well and all seem to play their prefered positions.

So keep

1 - Phelps
2 - Roberts
3 - Gleeson/Pryce
4 - Carmont/Pyrce
5 - Richards

Moving on to the 6 and 7 area. With Macca now being out of the frame for up to 8weeks, I suppose this means Tommy will be moved into the 9 area, interchanging with Riddell. From the start I'd expect Tommy to play the whole 80mins, starting games with.

6 - S. Tomkins
7 - Leulaui

9 - Riddell

Big risk, but would anyone give Stefan Marsh ago at the big time? Start him on the bench, after 20mins, introduce him to play.

6 - S. Marsh
7 - S. Tomkins

9 - Leulaui

I know it's a very very young 6/7/9 area at that point, but the bonds between Marsh and Tomkins are there from teh Reserves side.

The forward pack, I'm expecting Mossop to stay at Hudd. Giving Farrell and Flan ago.

8 - Coley
9 - Riddell
10 - Prescott
11 - Bailey
12 - J. Tomkins
13 - Flanagan

This is what Flanagan as been waiting for, not saying he's been waiting for Locker's to hurt himself, but the opportunity to show himself in the squad, about time he got ago. Farrell to come off the bench.'"


Absoultly no chance that we should play Marsh, IMO Flanagan, Phelps, Roberts and Lockers are all ahead of him to play 6 atm if needed.

Flanagan should play 6 IMO.

Bring Farrell in at SR and play Tomkins at 13.

Get Mossop back from Loan. Hudds are dropping off the pace now, he will get more experience playing with us IMO.

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Quote: odemwingie "Absoultly no chance that we should play Marsh, IMO Flanagan, Phelps, Roberts and Lockers are all ahead of him to play 6 atm if needed.

Flanagan should play 6 IMO.

Bring Farrell in at SR and play Tomkins at 13.

Get Mossop back from Loan. Hudds are dropping off the pace now, he will get more experience playing with us IMO.'"


Understand were your coming from. Flan is ok at 6 in the reserves, pressure isn't applied as quick. In SL, he isn't quick enough. IMO

I also feel Farrell is a sencond rower to come off the bench, isn't ready to start SL games, introduce him after the players he's against have already taken 20minutes of beasting. Not good enough yet to start against experienced, fresh second rowers.

As I said Phelps and Roberts need to stay were they are, they are getting use to their areas more and more every game. But for the one game, why not give him ago? If it doesn't work, play Phelps, Roberts, Gleeson at 6.

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I would go with:

1- Phelps
2- Roberts
3- Gleeson (if not Pryce)
4- Carmont
5- Richards
6- Tomkins
7- Leuluai
8- Coley
9- Riddell
10- Prescott
11- Bailey
12- Tomkins
13- Flanagan

Paleasina
Fielden
Farrel
?

Got one place left on the bench, and wouldn't want to bring back Goulding or Mossop.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Mark1987 "Understand were your coming from. Flan is ok at 6 in the reserves, pressure isn't applied as quick. In SL, he isn't quick enough. IMO

I also feel Farrell is a sencond rower to come off the bench, isn't ready to start SL games, introduce him after the players he's against have already taken 20minutes of beasting. Not good enough yet to start against experienced, fresh second rowers.

As I said Phelps and Roberts need to stay were they are, they are getting use to their areas more and more every game. But for the one game, why not give him ago? If it doesn't work, play Phelps, Roberts, Gleeson at 6.'"


It doesn't matter how quick he is really, he has enough pace to play 6 IMO. It's about how quick and well he moves the ball on in the line, which he does very well.

If we were where saints are now then I might say yes give him a shot but we cannot afford to play him and end up having that as part of the reason we lost to change it the next week. We need to win all our games from now on, we have no second chances left for this season. We also need as much consistancy as possible and atm we are winning so keep it as consistant as possible and if we absolutely have to, then move one of the players I mentioned to 6 as cover.

If we really wanted to bring in a young player at this time for a game then I would say leave Leuluai and Sam in the halves and bring Logan Tomkins in for 1 game as his position has a lower risk to it. Having a 6 with a bad game on the field could lose you the game but with a hooker it's a little different.

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Quote: odemwingie "It doesn't matter how quick he is really, he has enough pace to play 6 IMO. It's about how quick and well he moves the ball on in the line, which he does very well.

If we were where saints are now then I might say yes give him a shot but we cannot afford to play him and end up having that as part of the reason we lost to change it the next week. We need to win all our games from now on, we have no second chances left for this season. We also need as much consistancy as possible and atm we are winning so keep it as consistant as possible and if we absolutely have to, then move one of the players I mentioned to 6 as cover.

If we really wanted to bring in a young player at this time for a game then I would say leave Leuluai and Sam in the halves and bring Logan Tomkins in for 1 game as his position has a lower risk to it. Having a 6 with a bad game on the field could lose you the game but with a hooker it's a little different.'"


Logan Tomkins is a Junior!

He's only made 4 apps for the Resevres, 2 being off the bench.

Either Joe Mellor (SH) or Stefan Marsh (SH/LC), should get ago, between them they've scored 15 tries in 19 apps in the reserves.

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Quote: Mark1987 "Logan Tomkins is a Junior!

He's only made 4 apps for the Resevres, 2 being off the bench.

Either Joe Mellor (SH) or Stefan Marsh (SH/LC), should get ago, between them they've scored 15 tries in 19 apps in the reserves.'"


It's lower risk playing a hooker than a 6 IMO though.

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Quote: odemwingie "It's lower risk playing a hooker than a 6 IMO though.'"


Playing anyone in any position at such a young age is a huge risk.

I.e Aniscough, S. Tomkins most recently.

Playing Flan and Farrell will be a risk, some might not think it is, but believe me it will be!

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Marsh is a centre or winger not a 6.

I think he would make a very good fullback.

Far too early for first team yet. Ian Thornley could do a job at centre but he is also too young at this time.

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