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Quote: captaindan "No, please don't get me wrong, as I opened with the statement, I did not want this to drag on. This was for the club officials who troll on here.

I am not stirring anything. But the lack of comment from the club stating any kind of support to the supporters is astounding. A reassuring statement would be all that is required telling us what will happen when they find the culprits, not an open investigation on a public forum.

And no, I am not afriad of any conflict myself, the little scrotes are not brave enough to have a go at me. They pick on vulnerable types instead.

I have heard so many people commenting that if this carry's on, they would stop going to away matches, mainly families, and these are the people who need some confidence that the club is taking things seriously.

So, stop having a go at me for asking a serious, if contentious question. If you have nothing constructive to say, say nothing.'"


You're a troll, and not a very good one.

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What is it with you guys, excellent at smoke and mirrors and twisting words of anyone who shows anything of an opinion which is different to your own.

FFS, I am a Wigan supporter, have been for over forty years man and boy, I am not looking to dis our club but pointing out that although there may be investigations going on, the PR from the club, which is usually very good these days is lacking in giving no comment to fans who may be worried.

You want to wind your neck in and realise when comments are made for the good of our club and our supporters. And Jeff, no I am not a troll, as I said before, if you cant say anything positive, say nothing. But you can't resist can you.

Stop stirring it up, I am just looking for a genuine response, not a half baked theory on my motive. If you can't manage that, then the question is not aimed at you, so back off.

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Quote: captaindan "What is it with you guys, excellent at smoke and mirrors and twisting words of anyone who shows anything of an opinion which is different to your own.

FFS, I am a Wigan supporter, have been for over forty years man and boy, I am not looking to dis our club but pointing out that although there may be investigations going on, the PR from the club, which is usually very good these days is lacking in giving no comment to fans who may be worried.

You want to wind your neck in and realise when comments are made for the good of our club and our supporters. And Jeff, no I am not a troll, as I said before, if you cant say anything positive, say nothing. But you can't resist can you.

Stop stirring it up, I am just looking for a genuine response, not a half baked theory on my motive. If you can't manage that, then the question is not aimed at you, so back off.'"


If you don't want to dis the club, stop trying to find controversy where there isn't any.

And just telling people to back off because they find your attitude questionable won't cut it. This is a public forum, where views and opinions are commonly exchanged. If you have genuine personal concerns about violence at Wigan games, or info to impart to the club on this matter, make a private contact. Introducing this thread by saying that your post is only to be responded to by club officials trolling on the site is, frankly, a pretty ridiculous thing to do.

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Quote: captaindan "
Stop stirring it up, I am just looking for a genuine response, not a half baked theory on my motive. If you can't manage that, then the question is not aimed at you, so back off.'"


I am happy to believe your concerns are genuine but I also would be very surprised if you got a response on here. The club do read the forums (though whether they do as much as they used to I have no idea) so your message may well have been seen.

I am also sure given the club have to investigate what went on at Hudds they will be doing so. I reckon if you contact the club directly you would get a response.

If you want them to make a public statement about the problem as you see it I am not sure they will. If they view it as having been dealt with by banning some people and what ever other action they have taken they may not want to blow it up into a bigger problem. You may think that is a head in the sand approach but I think clubs have to tread carefully on hooliganism or they risk sensationalizing it. The press would have a field day IMO.

You only have to look how Wane's comments on Sam's sin bin have been reported to see how they jump on anything. "Severely reprimanded" was one headline I saw. God knows how they would distort comments from the club on hooliganism.

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Point taken Dave, I just don't think that the softly softly approach to such a public show of thuggery is the right way forwards.

I think a statement from IL underlining the family values and that they ARE indeed following up the issue. Coupled with a very public announcement if people do get banned for their actions could generate some really positive press. Stating that we will not tolerate this behaviour as a sport would surely underline the high value which we place on the sporting ethos and family values behind our game whilst at the same time, reassuring families who may be considering coming to the matches that all is well.

As I said, I have no underlying mission to disrupt here, it is a genuine concern and whilst I agree that a letter to the club will be the best way forward, this forum is for discussing the game and so I thought I would start here.

People do get defensive and start pointing the finger very quickly on here though, and I don't enjoy having my motives questioned to such an extent when, with a little thought, you can see what the issue is.

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Quote: captaindan "Point taken Dave, I just don't think that the softly softly approach to such a public show of thuggery is the right way forwards.'"


My view is if they have dealt with it by bans or whatever and think they have nipped it in the bud then that can be the end of it. If on the other hand it surfaces again I think a different approach might be needed.

Quote: captaindan "People do get defensive and start pointing the finger very quickly on here though, and I don't enjoy having my motives questioned to such an extent when, with a little thought, you can see what the issue is.'"


Grow a thick skin. I have lost count of the number of times I have been accused of having an "agenda".

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Grow a thick skin. I have lost count of the number of times I have been accused of having an "agenda".'"
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Oh I have a thick skin and broad shoulders for the knives in the back too....... icon_mrgreen.gif

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iirc the idiots moved from behind the sticks last year at Cas, and stood at the side near the corner flag........and wasnt there some kind of incident?
maybe the Cas stewards will be prepared this time and hopefully not let any drunken kids in.

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There was an article in the Wigan Reporter last week making it clear that the club had been over to Huddersfield to view CCTV footage and were working with Huddersfield and the Police.

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Quote: wigan pie man "iirc the idiots moved from behind the sticks last year at Cas, and stood at the side near the corner flag........and wasnt there some kind of incident?
maybe the Cas stewards will be prepared this time and hopefully not let any drunken kids in.'"


not defending anyone here, but wasn't it lagging it down that day and pretty much all the wigan supporters had taken cover in that corner... iirc something may have gone but can't be sure

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Quote: mr ree "not defending anyone here, but wasn't it lagging it down that day and pretty much all the wigan supporters had taken cover in that corner... '"


That was the year before

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Quote: Conroy "That was the year before'"


fair enough, i stand corrected then icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: mr ree "not defending anyone here, but wasn't it lagging it down that day and pretty much all the wigan supporters had taken cover in that corner... iirc something may have gone but can't be sure'"


no...it was dry and very cold.
most fans were in the normal end behind the posts, but a section of fans went to the side and eventually caused a bit of bother iirc.

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Quote: captaindan "
A statement is required from the club'"


Quote: captaindan ""Will all the muppets please stop jerking their knee - and stop expecting a statement about everything, including how long Shaun Wane's bowel movement took this morning.

Your sincerely,

Ian Lenagan."'"


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