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Quote: wigan pie man "i was thinking more CELTIC reserves'"


leave cru reserves alone. thats the breeding ground for the charge into mid table for next year !

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on a more serious note. it is sad when a great player falls so low.
the best we can hope is that a reinforced front row next season will take the pressure of him, and he can rebuild his career.

unless he wants to release himself from the contract, hes here for next season. in the past hes looked like a genuine pro, who is confused about his lack of form. one last hurrah to earn a final deal back over the pennines ? i hope he can come back.

i would notlike to think of him retiring with this level ofperformance as something to remember him by.

personally, come october i would tell him bugger off for 2 months. get his head in order, then come back training hard for a final fling, and a chance to resurrect his career.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



He's good defender (and he does get through a ton in defence) but that's all now, and it's not good enough for a super league prop. I hope he returns to some kind of form but I seriously doubt whether it will be with us. What frustrates me more is that he's been so bad for so long, and yet he's never been dropped.

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I think it could be that he is getting stale under the same manager. he has been with nobby for most of his career. i think with a change of coach/team he will regain some of his form.

i also feel sorry for him. i was sure that he would shut the doubters up during this season, and he aint anywere near doing that.

to be fair to him he has been honest in his approach and whilst talking about his performances. he has never (IIRC) blamed anyone but himself for it.

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He will be known as a SL great, just not from his time at Wigan. IMO hes not the same size as he was at Bradford, hes looked like he was going to explode at any moment at Bradford but now he looks nothing more than most 2nd rowers in the league.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Does anyone else think he should have a spell in the academy? I know it's a risk playing a young lad (Mossop) or a second rower (Hansen) at prop but I'd put money on them doing a better job of it than him. Plus that leaves Fielden with no pressure on his shoulders, playing as a big fish in a small pond. If that happens maybe he'll get back some form and be useful in September/October. The idea of Fielden lining up against Morley and Westwood in a couple of weeks scares me to be honest, and could lose us momentum when it matters.

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I second what most of ypu have already said. I too feel alot of sympaty towards Fielden, it's obvious he is trying but for whatever reason it just doesn't work out for him.

I hope he regains some form whether that be at Wigan or away from Wigan because IMHO he deserves form more than most. He has his good spells during a game but then he has his bad spells - little difference to Jekyll and Hyde IMO.

What really does seem to fire him up is someone striking out at him, although I don't recommend it maybe sometimes a good slap by Feka or someone is exaxtly what he need's.

Or is that a bad idea? icon_surprised.gifops: icon_lol.gif

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Quote: JTB "His knock on he seems to do in EVERY game off a straightforward carry is the most predictable thing in a Wigan match now.'"


Every time Fielden takes the ball in I cover my eyes in the same way I did when Danny Campbell took the ball in towards the end of the 85 cup final.

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I think Fieldens role in the team has changed, he is very much the senior prop. Its no surprise that he is being used the same time as Feka. Feka is there for his line burst's (which he is very good at), Fielden is used for his defensive skill's, (which Feka is crap at). When he was at Bradford he was one of a 4 / 5 forward line. Vangana, Peacock, Anderson, Mc Dermott & Fielden. All good big props. At Wigan he has Prescott (a kid), O' Carroll (a kid), Coley ( a large 2nd rower) and Feka (a specialist / impact prop). He either needs another Senior prop in the forward line or a change in coach who will bring in new idea's and rejuvenate him.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "What really does seem to fire him up is someone striking out at him, although I don't recommend it maybe sometimes a good slap by Feka or someone is exaxtly what he need's.

Or is that a bad idea?
I take it you don't remember him backing down to Crabtree (I think) earlier this season. As somebody on here said "he's the cowardly lion," the guy has lost it and a bad performance against Saints or even wrose Wire will see him chased out the club a la Mathers.

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Quote: RobotMonster "I take it you don't remember him backing down to Crabtree (I think) earlier this season. As somebody on here said "he's the cowardly lion," the guy has lost it and a bad performance against Saints or even wrose Wire will see him chased out the club a la Mathers.'"


Slipped my mind that one actually. I think for Wigans and Fieldens sake, he need's to leave and find a new club. It's best for both parties IMHO.

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I don't think it is time for him to retitre neither do i think he has lost his appetite for the game. Remember the try he scored a few matches back and his reaction afterwards.

He came here with a big reputation and reportibly on a big contract and since his arrival we have not had another quality prop to back him up. Feka is good in bursts, coley is decent enough and then we have just had kids. If we do sign this 'enforcer' prop for next year and some of the pressure is lifted from his shoulders i think we would see a better player. At Bradford he had Vagana, Anderson and Peacock.

Also he has had a lot of stick from the crowds aswell as on places like this. I've said this about others before. If we support our players instead of giving them stick (even if sometimes they deserve it) it can only help improve peformance and confidence which counts for a lot in this game.

Someone with a better wit than me should dream up a good chant for him, get it sung and out of curiosity see what reaction we get.

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Needs to get his head sorted, he looks ok physically, but even in the warm up he has a nervous look about him.

Not sure how you put it right, I think moving on will be part of the answer, but if anyone ever manages to sort out whatever is going on in his head you can be sure he'll come back to haunt us!

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He is finished, his heart isnt in it anymore and you can tell he doesnt want to be there, if he was on an average wage he would probably leave but with the amount of money he's on who would leave really?

Im embarrassed for him he gets beaten every drive he trys to make, drops the ball every single match and the only thing he can pride himself on is his defence but its just not worth it. Will be glad to see the back of him, and if his form suddenly comes back next year when contract time is up i will be extremely p*ssed off.

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Quote: dany1979 "When Wigan first signed Fielden during that terrible period i was delighted to have him in the squad and although he never quite lived up to his reputation as one the countries top enforcers there have definatley been plenty of games where he has made a difference and im sure that just his presence on the field and in training would of helped our younger players, particularly the likes of Eamon O'Carrol and Paul Prescott amongst others.

However there have been many games last season and particularly this season where despite his best efforts he has struggled to make a positive impact and forgive me if i seem unappreciative of some of his better games because i am not. Even in the win over Bradford there were moments when i felt sorry for him as he struggled to keep possesion of the ball and in a tight game he is one of the last people i want to see take the ball up in the final few minutes of the game.

Do you think that Fielden should consider early retirement or am i going over the top?'"

mate you are spot on one the the best posts i have seen in a long while,actually when you look back he was not at his peak the last season with bradford.

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