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| Quote Bridger="Bridger"Really. Expect Hock to be playing regularly at prop forward before he's 30.'"
Only time will tell if this is the best thing for Hock but at the moment it looks like by the time hes 29/30 he will be in the front row
I don't care where he ends up as long as its the right thing for him and the team
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| Quote Salty="Salty"Our best props have been former back-rowers. I did a post on this a few years ago.
Brian McTigue, Terry Clawson, Kevin Ward, Andy Platt, Kurt Sorenson to name a few.'"
Guess we all know F all then according to one poster.....
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| Quote Bridger="Bridger"Really. Expect Hock to be playing regularly at prop forward before he's 30.'"
Been saying this for years now, Prop is his natural position and where i am certain he will end up in at most 2 at a push 3 seasons time.
Pongia was a second row, Wiki was a wing/centre, still what did they ever do upfront?
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Been saying this for years now, Prop is his natural position and where i am certain he will end up in at most 2 at a push 3 seasons time.'"
What makes you think that?
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| Quote Bridger="Bridger"Really. Expect Hock to be playing regularly at prop forward before he's 30.'"
Mossop is a better prospect as a prop
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"What makes you think that?'"
He has the frame and the offloading game, when he plays wide in the second row he does not get involved nearly enough, when he is in the middle he will have no option.
He has a strong carry that is usually waisted in the flanks. I also think his defence is a bit patchy when faced with pace and agility, in a more central role this will be less exposed.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"He has the frame and the offloading game, when he plays wide in the second row he does not get involved nearly enough, when he is in the middle he will have no option.
He has a strong carry that is usually waisted in the flanks. I also think his defence is a bit patchy when faced with pace and agility, in a more central role this will be less exposed.'"
I think his frame is more suited to a 2nd rower
Not to sure about him not getting involved enough, can't say I have ever noticed him being lazy and thought he ran it in a lot against Quins
I prefer the idea of him running at centres, 2nd rowers and half backs instead of props, hookers and loose forwards as well
If he was defending further in the middle there is a possibilty he would get bashed around a bit and would definitely get tired quicker as he isn't the hardest working back rower going. This would probably mean he would play shorter stints, take less drives and maybe get more injuries
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"I think his frame is more suited to a 2nd rower
Not to sure about him not getting involved enough, can't say I have ever noticed him being lazy and thought he ran it in a lot against Quins
I prefer the idea of him running at centres, 2nd rowers and half backs instead of props, hookers and loose forwards as well
If he was defending further in the middle there is a possibilty he would get bashed around a bit and would definitely get tired quicker as he isn't the hardest working back rower going. This would probably mean he would play shorter stints, take less drives and maybe get more injuries'"
At the moment his frame is suited to secondrow but year on year he is getting bigger, add to this the fact he brings impact and his outstanding offloading game with him i personally have always felt it is where he will end up.
I do not mind if his game time is reduced as long as he contributes more in the time he is on, i think the last statement is a little tenuous. It does not seem to have done Peacock or Morley 2 very simillar style players to Hock much harm.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"At the moment his frame is suited to secondrow but year on year he is getting bigger, add to this the fact he brings impact and his outstanding offloading game with him i personally have always felt it is where he will end up.
I do not mind if his game time is reduced as long as he contributes more in the time he is on, i think the last statement is a little tenuous. It does not seem to have done Peacock or Morley 2 very simillar style players to Hock much harm.'"
I agree it is where he will probably end up but not for a few years yet
I wouldn't say Peacock and Morley are similar style players to Hock but I can see where your coming from
Around what age did they both move up to prop from 2nd row? (got me curious now  )
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"I agree it is where he will probably end up but not for a few years yet
I wouldn't say Peacock and Morley are similar style players to Hock but I can see where your coming from
Around what age did they both move up to prop from 2nd row? (got me curious now
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Morley moved forward after a year in Australia i think. Peacock moved forward in his last year at Bradford/first year at Leeds, playing both positions i think in his second year at Leeds he really became a Prop, rather than a Secondrow/Prop.
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| Quote Legend That Sorts It="Legend That Sorts It"so sam tomkins dont go out does he, amos roberts was out last week maybe we should drop him aswell ey, stupid'" There is a massive diffrence there trush me
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Morley moved forward after a year in Australia i think. Peacock moved forward in his last year at Bradford/first year at Leeds, playing both positions i think in his second year at Leeds he really became a Prop, rather than a Secondrow/Prop.'"
So they must of been around 28/29 until they were moved up to prop and Hock is only 25 now it should be at least 3 seasons before he is moved to prop probably 4 or 5 being realistic
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