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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "Shock horror everyone else thinks it's a bad one Wigan fans think it was careless n accidental.....'"
As others have pointed out, even Tony Smith said the red card was harsh.
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| Quote: Trainman "I can't agree with this. If you apply that to the Flower incident, by careless I mean he was going to put pressure on the kicker, turned his back as the ball was kicked and stuck an arm up and caught him with the elbow in the head. If it were intentional he would have been looking where he was targeting and applied a lot more force. Patten would not have got up again. There has to be a difference between the two.'"
It migjt not of been intentional but at the end of the day he connects on the chin. Intention or not, its a red.
Id say 90% of suspensions are not intentional but its still foul play.
I think defo a red and e game ban.
Before all the wigan fans jump on me claiming im biased as im saints fan, i was one of the few that thought the last flower suspension was ott
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| Quote: St pete "It migjt not of been intentional but at the end of the day he connects on the chin. Intention or not, its a red.
Id say 90% of suspensions are not intentional but its still foul play.
I think defo a red and e game ban.
Before all the wigan fans jump on me claiming im biased as im saints fan, i was one of the few that thought the last flower suspension was ott'"
I was disagreeing with a poster who said that an offence deemed as careless should be punished in the same way as one deemed intentional. If that was intentional it should be 10 matches, I don't think it was. If you read my previous posts you will see I thought it should have been a red and 2 - 3 game suspension.
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| Quote: Trainman "I was disagreeing with a poster who said that an offence deemed as careless should be punished in the same way as one deemed intentional. If that was intentional it should be 10 imatches, I don't think it was. If you read my previous posts you will see I thought it should have been a red and 2 - 3 game suspension.'"
Well i agree with that
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| great game and wigan where brill, but flower has to get a ban , imo if you lead with an elbow to someones face/jaw you are risking serious injury to that player a bit higher and it could have broken his jaw, no need for it, yes you need to challenge the kicker and let them know your there but that was bad, anyway well played wigan and again a great game
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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "To be fair my point can be switched to any sending off very rarely will the supporters of the player sent off accept, admit it was as bad as xan be perceived same as opposition fans will always make out it was worse than it was.
Don't think that curries was as bad as made out either, I've said it before n say it again the rfl are failing the players in jot offering any protection to them in instances like curries n the general desperation to prevent a try that happens every week are we going to have to wait for a severe injury or worse before they take player safety seriously. I don't want the game nerfed or softened whatsoever bur I don't want the players facing unnecessary risks to their health.
Careless is just as bad as intentional for me and should not be allowed as a mitigating factor.'"
I can't figure out why the crusher on Clubb wasn't looked at when it happened.
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| Quote: Trainman "I was disagreeing with a poster who said that an offence deemed as careless should be punished in the same way as one deemed intentional. If that was intentional it should be 10 matches, I don't think it was. If you read my previous posts you will see I thought it should have been a red and 2 - 3 game suspension.'"
Well yeah, you're right, that's how the grading system works (or is supposed to...). Careless is grade A-B, reckless is C-D, intentional is D-F.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "I think he'll get 2-3 games. His arms were obviously up already as he was attempting a charge down and he turned well before the contact so it was clumsy more than anything. He didn't project the forearm into the player and he got straight back up so contact wasn't that bad.'"
Will he then appeal the ban, and get let off for his impeccable disciplinary record.
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| Quote: tigerman1231 "Will he then appeal the ban, and get let off for his impeccable disciplinary record.'"
Unsurprisingly, we also have contributions to this thread by fans from clubs who, as usual, have nothing else to talk about at this time of year.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Unsurprisingly, we also have contributions to this thread by fans from clubs who, as usual, have nothing else to talk about at this time of year.'"
Hey don't be mean, they're in a tough battle for 5th!
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| Am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad?
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| Quote: Lebron James "Am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad?
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No. Both coaches agree with you.
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| Quote: Lebron James "Am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad?
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This. I can understand some of the outrage with how it looks and who did it but Flower isn't even looking at the lad, he's got an arm up to charge the ball and catches him badly on the way down. I can't argue with the red card and a possible 2-3 game ban because it was reckless, but I'm not seeing a deliberate attack.
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| bollox, Flower knew where his forearm was heading long before he looked away, and by "long" I mean fractions of a second.
Still, he didn't hurt nobody so what's the problem, I mean if O'loughlen can get away with what he did then Flower deserves an apology for the red really.
Does it seem like there's been more red cards for Wigan this season than usual....I dunno
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| Quote: Upanunder "bollox, Flower knew where his forearm was heading long before he looked away, and by "long" I mean fractions of a second.
Still, he didn't hurt nobody so what's the problem, I mean if O'loughlen can get away with what he did then Flower deserves an apology for the red really.
Does it seem like there's been more red cards for Wigan this season than usual....I dunno'"
Your right.... U dunno
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