keeps being released from contracts early , Jake Trbojevic is the vc so is captain the DCE's absence, how did they go in 2018? top 6-8? or second bottom, 2016? 4th bottom? hes only been there since 2018, anti saints? he doesnt play for you yet so hardly is it?

I said more often than not, not every year.

Listen I’m not getting into a drawn out argument with you because it won’t be you who gets accused of derailing a thread, it’ll be the nasty Saints fan. You’ve probably had more airtime than you deserve already given some of the nonsense you’re coming out with.

He has captained Manly since he’s been there and he’s also captained the indigenous side, so he’s clearly well thought of and a leader. He’s played over 200 first grade games and is a regular started for a good NRL side. He has won Players Player of the Year in 2018 and 2019. If you think he can do all these things whilst being “garbage” then you are severely deluded.

You’ve shown your limited knowledge on the matter by claiming he’s coming over now and claiming we are signing him to replace Luke Thompson. You conveniently ignored this when I pointed it out yesterday.

You obviously don’t know much about him and you’re slagging him off purely because Saints have signed him. There is literally no point in continuing this.

come on now no need to throw your toys out of the pram, players player means you try hard not the best player. finished in the top 8 twice in the last 5 years so not more often just saying. you can detail a thread all you want, whatever that means, more airtime than I deserve? and finally DCE has been the captain since hes been there and Trbojevic has been the vc since hes been there, keep up sunshine and stop sulking

James Graham back to Saints.

Was always on the cards especially with them needing a bit PR exercise after losing Thompson.

I don’t think it’s a good move for club or player.

Take the emotion and history out of it I’m not sure they would sign him.

They are welcome to him.

I think Graham will find a bit more inside himself playing for Saints than he’s been able to in the week to week intensity of the NRL but ultimately it’ll be a pretty big downgrade for Saints. He has been a warrior of the game and you can’t help admire him and what he’s achieved. Sadly when you watch him now he looks well past his best but he’ll still be one of the better props in this league.

He will still go well for a year or two yet , still fit and works overtime and can play the ball handling prop role as well , not many can do that these days .

Hard to be confident about either his longevity or how close he can get to the player of a couple of years ago, but

Even so, the direction of travel is that SL is haemorrhaging the best talent to the NRL and it seems to be getting worse. Under the circumstances it's hard to see a better short term option for Saints. If I were in their position, I'd be disappointed to see him go to a Hull, Leeds or Wire rather than come back, even if there's a pretty big risk to the signing.

I think he will go well if his body isnt knackered

I think he will be a better signing for them off the field than on it.

I’m sure he will go ok don’t get me wrong but he is a shadow of the player he was but that leadership he will bring can possibly help steady a ship that looks like it may be entering a bit of a transitional period.

Widely documented the change in attitude he brought to both Canterbury and St George when he signed for them.

How old is he?