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| Quote: That Mon "Partington could grow into a Paul Gallen type of player if you look at Gallen when he first broke into first grade. He does need to find some yardage but hes young. Your right about size and pace but hes a decent ball player with loads of aggression to balance that up. Couple of pre seasons should see him build up quite a bit. I'm still not sure how he will go but you never are with young props. I do know if all the pack showed the same heart we would not be able to moan about lack of effort.'"
Gallen came through as an aggressive running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Gallen came through as an aggressive running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.'"
People can compare any young player with any other legendary player, doesn’t mean they’ll be anything like.
I’m not convinced by Partington, either makes no yards or falls over before the defensive line. I’d love us to put the feelers out with Ryan Sutton, he’s improved massively and he’s just what we need.
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| Quote: post "People can compare any young player with any other legendary player, doesn’t mean they’ll be anything like.
I’m not convinced by Partington, either makes no yards or falls over before the defensive line. I’d love us to put the feelers out with Ryan Sutton, he’s improved massively and he’s just what we need.'"
I just find it ridiculous. Honestly. So often I see a young player compared to one of the all time greats. Even when Gallen was coming through he was considerably better and a completely different player.
Anyway; Harry Smith, who’s he most like? Cronk, Thurston or perhaps Joey Johns?
To me he’s more of a young Wally Lewis.
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| Quote: endoman "Nope, just the pass off the floor, without taking a step or two, there's no disguise in which direction it's going to go though. This sort of thing. I've noticed many of our passes lack accuracy and mean the receiver is having to readjust their line, we used to have the reciever with hands up ready to catch, this seems less common this season.
rlhttps://www.prorugbycoach.com/tutorial/scrum-half-pass-technique/rl'"
What always amazes me is the time that it takes to play the ball. I assume that the defensive line can advance once the ball is placed on the ground because half the time the defenders are meeting the ball carrier at the advantage line. Surely the PTB and pass to the runner could be tightened up.
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| Gallen came through as an i running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.'" ]
Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.
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| I'm sorry could/should have chosen my words more carefully. When I said grow into that type
I was literally meaning grow develop physically. Gallen waa a modern player of similar size when he started out and he bulked strengthened over time.
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| Paul Gallen always was a loose forward apart from when he was asked to play prop which he did for Australia NSW and Cronulla on the odd occasion
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| Quote: post "People can compare any young player with any other legendary player, doesn’t mean they’ll be anything like.
I’m not convinced by Partington, either makes no yards or falls over before the defensive line. I’d love us to put the feelers out with Ryan Sutton, he’s improved massively and he’s just what we need.'"
Sutton has signed a new contract at Canberra he has said that he wants to stay out there
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "
Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.'"
You’re quite right there IA.
The role of a #13 as the HB link is obsolete, the role of a 13 now is becoming more and more like a 3rd prop, SOL has been in that role for us this season. Props these days are being that link themselves, effectively putting HB’s+1 off the marker which is what the 13 used to do with props not passing and just taking a hit up. You could argue 13’s are more athletic which I would tend to agree with but you’ve only got to look at Luke Thompson who is as athletic as they come for a prop forward to see where it’s going.
Therefore the mooted Partington to 13 wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever. IMO you could put most young modern props at 13 and it wouldn’t change the complexion or attack of a team.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Gallen came through as an i running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.'"
Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.'" ]
That’s a completely different point.
I was discussing Partington and Gallen.
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| Quote: warrior1872 "Paul Gallen always was a loose forward apart from when he was asked to play prop which he did for Australia NSW and Cronulla on the odd occasion'"
His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13.
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| Quote: That Mon "I'm sorry could/should have chosen my words more carefully. When I said grow into that type
I was literally meaning grow develop physically. Gallen waa a modern player of similar size when he started out and he bulked strengthened over time.'"
I actually feel a little bad now. Sorry mate!
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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13.'"
https://youtu.be/6AdjzK7vTqc
Have a little look...
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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13.'"
https://youtu.be/6AdjzK7vTqc
Have a little look...
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| We should have given Kibula a chance at 13, he has the natural size and ball handling skills to play that position very well, he really started to progress at Swinton towards the last 5/6 games and we should have given him another year imo
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I actually feel a little bad now. Sorry mate!'"
No problem when I re read what I had wrote I could see where you was coming from.
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