There was quite of players in the england side that you wouldnt want in a WIGAN shirt but you would when there playing for thier club side.

Ive heard a few say this.. but if we are judging players by the 4 Nations performances, we wouldnt want any of them either

Its the way they get played at international level - we have hit a similar situation to the Lampard/Gerrard/Rooney and England football team were they are stars for the club but dont star for the country.

Sam should have been the star of the 4 nations, but McBanana used him in a totally different role than we do at Wigan.

Wow Clock measuring sounds like fun!!! I always wanted a man with a big Clock!!!!!!

But people are raving about him after never seeing him play. People want him because he's English and playing in the NRL. Mathers, K. Mason, Tansey, Thorman... See a pattern forming?

Isn't Widdop a half? He was played at FB and looked pretty terrible.

Plus he wouldn't count against the quota, so it wouldn't be a bad move if he's got something about him.

Correct I'm still struggling to come to terms with "punching the air with delight and shouting 'go on' " whilst on a freebie sponsors do at the JJB when Chris Ashton scored the first try against Bradford ...

I had £5 on him to be first try scorer but cheering a wiganer like that made me feel filthy, I still have flash backs, i dont think I'll ever get over it ....a filthy disgusting act......

I think people are being harsh on Widdop. For me he was no worse or better than Sam during the 4 nations.

Neither him or Sam never really set the world alight yet they never really put a foot wrong. Its difficult for these guys to show there attacking flare when the whole team were limited to one man rugby tactics from a very poor coach.

Widdop is a great talent and Wigan would be mad not to consider him for a transfer that is right for both player and club.

You seen a lot of the Toyota cup then?

if wigan signed widdop where would he play, would you put him straight into the first team but with roberts and tomkins were would he play fullback?looks like tomkins made that position his own or in the halve but you just signed finch and you got leuluai. so i think that not going to happen as you don't need a fullback or anyone in the halves.

You post in a thread on Joel Monaghan, and you describe cheering on Wigan as a "filthy disgusting act"?

Widdop can play every position in the back line, long term he will specialise in the halves, but he would be an outstanding player to have in the squad.

I could see both him and Sam swapping between the halves and fullback position. Leuleui will play at hooker and I think we could easily accommodate another half/utility back in the squad.

Widdop earned his rights coming through the system, he is probably along with Sam the best natural athlete in the backs that England have produced in some time.

I agree he was quiet in the 4 nations, but on the 4 nations showing you would have to say the Robinson is a better half than Tomkins.

I have seen enough of him in his first grade games, and also some of the Toyota Cup highlights to realise this lad has the potential to be an outstanding player. I am confident that he would have been a first team regular at most clubs in SL for a year or 2 now.

The names you mentioned would not have got near an NRL jumper had they been born in Australia and not been transferred over there, as a no risk signing.

that's barking!

(I'll get me coat...)

I'll accept that off you as someone who has seen more than a handful of games from him but I struggle to see how anyone else can make a judgement on him.

yeah i know...thank god it didnt get mistaken for a joke........


you must be a blast at the christmas party.......