I switched off after five.

Load o'shiite!

Widnes want marsh and Davies on loan for the year, I think McGuire is due to go to widnes tomorrow to discuss.

Bloody hell, does that lad never have a holiday?

IMO it is important that young player get regular first team action. Playing in the reserves simply won't develop a player in the same way.

Considering Davies was at Widnes last year, I personally would have preferred to see him spelled out at another SL club (similar to Thornley at KR and Mossop at Huddersfield, Tuson at Cas) I think again this allows to player to develop even more preparing them for our first team.

There is a massive difference in national league rugby and SL.

I agree in one way but it gets them used to playing against big fellas instead of kids all the time, the advantage SL has over the championship however is speed. Im pretty sure both Ben and Stefan are longer term targets for Widnes, If we get the nod for SL im pretty sure we'll have a go at getting them down to Widnes on a permanent basis depending on how Wigan see there futures.

Ben will be limited next year with him already having about 5 front rowers ahead of him and stefan has Gleeson/Carmont/Charnley and perhaps Roberts ahead of him.

Im sure you wont mind them nipping down the road.

Going to Widnes did Joel or Farrell no harm so im happy for those two to go for a season.

True, but the advantage of dual reg is that it's easier to recall them if/when needed. Also, as I understand it, they continue to train with Wigan, which loaned players don't.

What's everyone's thought's on Leeds signing Ben Cross? From what I've read must don't rate him, stating he's past it.

Stolen of the Bradford board. But Leeds will have a pretty old frontrow next year.

Peacock - 33 at the start of 2011
Leuluai - 33 by the start of 2011
Cross - 32 at the start of 2011
Bailey - 27
Burgess - 24

love to see the reaction if it was wigan who signed him at 32.

was a top prop 2-3 years ago..a drop in talent if hes the replacment for eastwood IMO

Rumour that Burgess fancies a move down under too!

It's a very short term solution.

Realistically, they're now going to have to replace 60% of their props within 2 years, and I'd be surprised if they had enough academy players to make the steup up to Peacock/Leuluai's level straight away.

They have Jay Pitts and Luke Ambler as well as the lad from Cumbria who has been a let down thus far since signing from Whitehaven. I would expect one of them to step up, although doubtful 2 will step up at the same time.

If we had signed Cross u can gurantee that people like Barrie Mcdermott and Eddie Hemmings would ahve been complainig about giving youth a chance and doing nothing for the England side by having a foreign player come in. Nevermind hes 32 next season its ok its not us so no one says a thing. Mcdermott moaned when we signed the 3 from Melbourne and they were direct replacements for overseas players. Just like Cross is for Eastwood.