This topic has gone a little bit wayward everyone?!

In my opinion, every time we get a "first teamer" back fit he is thrown straight in despite the youngster who has played just as well if not better in the first teamers absence. Said first teamers then continue to perform worse than the "stand in" youngster and usually results in a loss. Play to form Shaun, not a name.

Its hopefully just a ploy to play tot he set up of the play offs in order to get to the GF, but in fairness, its not fair to the paying fans is it so I can understand everyone's' grievance with the game in general at present.

Looking at the eticketing site for Friday it's going to be a big crowd, could even push 20k depending on how many Leeds bring. Hopefully we are treated to something that is a "Wigan performance", as our recent home record against the top teams doesn't make good reading.

I would recommend anyone to have a look at the "RL Action" programme for the 1981 "Battle of Fartown" (available in full on Youtube). Once you have done that see if your opinions still stand.

I was privileged to have attended that game, it was actually better than the new years day v wire game a few years later.

Quote hatty="hatty"I was privileged to have attended that game, it was actually better than the new years day v wire game a few years later. '" "A game for the connoisseur" was how Maurice Bamford described it. I remember Martin Foy shadow boxing close to the touchline when everyone else was getting stuck in. For those of you who have never seen it take a look. It was mayhem. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=2365

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Isn't that the one where the black Hudds player gets targetted?

I'm not really sure who you're referring to? Manfredi does a decent job and has got a bright future ahead of him but Charnley is one of the best wingers in SL and rightfully got slotted back in when fit. Thornley was clearly put in against Widnes to regain some match fitness before the Leeds, Wire games and the playoffs seeing as though there's no reserve grade and it's too late for him to get sent out on loan, plus Sarginson has been poor in the last couple of months. Same with Green, he's first choice and needed to displace one of the youngsters to gain match fitness. Plus I do think Powell and Williams genuinely had knocks against Widnes because it simply didn't make sense to rest both when McIlorum and Green weren't up to speed and the only other option was Doran.

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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery""A game for the connoisseur" was how Maurice Bamford described it. I remember Martin Foy shadow boxing close to the touchline when everyone else was getting stuck in. For those of you who have never seen it take a look. It was mayhem. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=2365'" And those 2,687 tickets sold out in seconds!

And what part of that game are you actually missing these days? If it's the full-on brawling, horrible cheap shots and general ry then either go and watch MMA/Boxing or get yourself out on a Friday/Saturday night in town rather than going to watch Rugby League.

Yes I miss everything you mention, I also miss being able to shoulder charge , stealing the ball, full on brutal games the spectators (and players) love, that's what rugby league is and if you don't like that then maybe you should be at the DW on Saturdays not Friday evening or you could walk the dog in the park.

So in summation, you miss thuggery in our great game.

God

Dont be such a tart.

Rugby league "the toughest game in the world"

"our" great game was built on toughness. Now is just sanitized and dull.