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| Quote twosevenzero="twosevenzero"It's all about opinions, our overseas signings need to be of better quality than Phelps, IMO Hardman matches him in all areas and would cost less and free up funds/quota for players we need in other positions (prop/stand off), like I said, it's all about opinions.
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Are overseas signings do need to be of the highest quality but so to do are British signed players, for me if we got rid of Phelps it would create a knock on affect through the team of moving people around when theres no need to. The signing of Phelps is only short term signing and then we could use his quota spot, but at the minute he's doing a good job at Fullback in a position that we have no one else who excels in it.
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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"Are overseas signings do need to be of the highest quality but so to do are British signed players, for me if we got rid of Phelps it would create a knock on affect through the team of moving people around when theres no need to. The signing of Phelps is only short term signing and then we could use his quota spot, but at the minute he's doing a good job at Fullback in a position that we have no one else who excels in it.'"
Had Smith not got injured Sam Tomkins would have been given a run at FB.
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That's incorrect. He's signed until the end of this year but there's an option for a further season.
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That's incorrect. He's signed until the end of this year but there's an option for a further season.
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"Ian Hardman?
How his name has got any where near this thread is beyond me.
Ian Hardman!!'"
You should know better than question me Alex !!! 
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"Ian Hardman?
How his name has got any where near this thread is beyond me.
Ian Hardman!!'"
He'd have brought the ladies in...
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| i have no idea why the bulldogs let him go, but its our gain and there loss, hes the best utility back out there for me full back, wing, centre, stand off, hes quality, who else would you have then from the super league, like if said all along he wants to ply for the club o keep him, whats the point in going spending 200,000 for the likes of minnechelo or hunt, keep him hes doing a great job
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| Quote Legend That Sorts It="Legend That Sorts It"i have no idea why the bulldogs let him go, but its our gain and there loss, hes the best utility back out there for me full back, wing, centre, stand off, hes quality, who else would you have then from the super league, like if said all along he wants to ply for the club o keep him, whats the point in going spending 200,000 for the likes of minnechelo or hunt, keep him hes doing a great job'"
Definately agree on that....Phelps it the best utility player in SL IMO and is worth a place in the squad on that alone....he gives you so many options....for me id like to see phelps stay at the club for the rest of his career, in a super sub role similar to that in the old days sam panapa was.... you can put him on the bench and he can cover all options in the backs as well as hooking, and in all likelyhood i would expect could play 13. For me the only positions you couldnt play phelps is SR or Prop, and that makes him a very valuable player IMO
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"Shaun Briscoe and Paul Wellens.
But don't get me wrong I would sooner have Cameron Phelps that Ian Hardman.'"
Id sooner have all of the above than Paul Wellens............Actually id sooner have Richie Mathers than Paul Wellens
How Wellens is justifcation for keeping anyone out is beyond me....if he was anything like half decent Hardman would be the saints full back.
In all honesty Hardman has found his level playing national league.
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| Quote andyed-wiganrl="andyed-wiganrl"Why the shock
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Shock?
Because of your absurd Hatred of Roberts & Riddell who are certainly (And in nearly everyone I speak to's opinion) better than the alternatives put up by Certain people!
And TBH due to the above I find it very difficult to Fully agree with anything you say as I feel your opinions of the above are so Biased Negatively by something other (And I can't understand what it is, you can say they are Crap or whatever you want when it is plainly obvious to Most that they are playing well despite what you say) than what everyone else watches every week.
I also feel, a bit like you and others did with Mathers, that you have made up your mind about someone and made them the scapegoat for anything wrong at the club that they will never be accepted and you and others will pick holes in them continually to try and prove you were right rather than accept you are wrong.
I also think it doesnt do the club or the player and consequently the Team's results any favours they way you and others make it so personal and I think it contributes to a Negativity to certain players & the team etc that often doesnt need to exist.
Anyway!
To fully agree on the Phelps issue I would however have to see Phelps contribute like he has in maybe 10 out of the last 15 this and 1/2 dozen times last for a much longer & more consistant period!
Also there are other players at other clubs who can also play 3 or 4 positions well whereas TBH Phelps hasn't played Well at Hooker/Centre or HB yet!
I'm not saying he won't but 95% of his Good games have come from FB or Wing last year.
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