There is no other option but to say Thank You Brian (in a nice way) and appoint an experienced Aussie coach with a top class backroom staff.

Nathan Brown was struggling in the NRL at the Dragons but has been a revealation at Hudds and all the coaches that have pops at his teams style of play is just an excuse for their lack of ideas and the fact he has brought the NRL's wrestling plays to Hudds but hey their second.

Watching around 5 NRL games every weekend has really shocked me in my judgement of how the SL is in comparison, a currently unemployed coach like Folkes or Murray would significantly improve our perfomances but if we put a temporary coach in place and waited until the end of the season and offered a coach of the calibre of Bellamy a contract it would be worth waiting for.

Much of it is non-functional? What do you mean by that?

Given that the finances to develop Orrell came out of DW's back pocket (and then purchased by IL as part of the whole deal) I'm not sure how you expect these 'finances' to have been spent in more direct areas?

The field is functional, not sure much of the gym is, although i have to say never been to it, just from what i have seen on the internet large sections of the gym seem to be very expensive bits of kit that must gather dust for much of the season.

I maybe hold that down to the decisions made by Mick Foreshaw, but at the end of the day BN appointed him as his key advisor in this capacity.

I think you're perhaps clutching at straws there and I'd also suggest that the gym and entire facility at Orrell is used extensively by the club and will be for many years to come.

I hope Noble does get sacked or walks away. The reason being i am sick to death of idiots like Jonh,Diesel and DaveO blaming Noble for everything and desperate for the man to fail. All those bandwagoners who have jumped on the truck should hold there heads in shame as well as the majority of you blasted Lindsay and Whelan no end for sacking coaches and claimed we needed stability. Sacking coaches was what triggered the downfall of Wigan in the first place and led to new coaches wanting to change the squad around time and time again. Noble has half built the team yet is still missing vital players in key positions. If you think any coach could do better with such a poor front row and a cr@p 7 and inexperienced 6 then you need a reality check. The days of teams lying down and rolling over for Wigan have long gone and the facts are teams have overtook us and the salary cap has made sure that the competition is more even and anybody can beat anybody. The only way to sucseed nowaday is to build a team over a good few years and get some stabilty across the board not press the panic button when things are not going right. Warrington pressed the panic button with Cullen and have gone backwards if anything and have shown little sign of improvement under Tony Smith who the Noble haters regard as a master coach.

What i am saying with conviction is that the money spent on equiping that gym from what i have seen has not been well spent if you are looking at a functional aspect of training rugby league athletes, especially if they have access to another facility such as a comercial gym such as a JJB which i understand they did at the time, not sure if that is still the case but at the time the facility was kitted out is was.

Most other clubs have a much poorer budget and invest heavily in functional kit and not the comercial gym kit that there is at Orrell, that is reserved to the partnering gyms in the local community that the club do not have to pay for and infact get paid to use.

Sorry Mate but it seems to me that people with your attitude are the ones that have hindered our Great club, teams have to be built over time but you have to move forward with every brick you place, the bricks we have been placing were either crooked or had no cement (placed by dodgy builders) every brick needs to be placed correctly so that it doesnt lean but supports its foundations..

Go on admit it, the penny has finally dropped.

Dave

No penny has dropped at all. I can see the obvious that people like you cant Dave. The obvious being that the halfback situation at Wigan is a shambles and the front row is one of the poorest in the league.

We have 2 Scrum Halfs none of which can kick a ball with regular accuracy,one cant tackle and has got off the field problems,the other is a one trick pony who can do nothing but run and step. We started the season with no stand off whatsoever! Its ok saying we have Tomkins but you cannot play a young inexperienced 6 next to a poor 7.

Our forwards are god damn awful. Fielden is finished and cannot break through a paper bag. Coley is a crab and does more sideways running than forwards. Prescot and O'Carrol are kids who should not be outperforming your 2 main front rowers every week and Feka would be ok in a decent team but too much is expected of him at Wigan to come on and win us every game.

And thats before i even talk about the second row of which only Hock looks threatening to the opposition. And i wont even mention the fact that we a winger playing fullback.

If it is it should have been sorted by now. Noble has been here three years. There is no improvement and that is a fact .

He is the coach and the buck stops with him.

Dave

How can you improve when you lose a player like Trent Barrett and replace him with nobody please explain. You cant and i knew we would be awful this year the minute i found out that we was running with a T & T at 6 and 7. Add on top of that the props are utter garbage and its no wonder we find ourselves losing so many games. Teams get on top of us up front and we lose like today. On the odd occasion we get field position like against Saints we dont have a halfback to open them up. Thats the reason we rely so heavily on Hock running wide playing like a stand off.

Lets just hope this is the scene upon arrival in wigan tomorrow!!



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