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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"No point torturing ourselves over it, they're both gone in principle, and lots more RL young lads will follow over the next ten years. We are all shouting and screaming at the RL to sort it out, but whether they can or can't nothings happening.
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THE SALARY CAP IS KILLING RUGBY LEAGUE, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
Until it is increased/removed Union will poach all our best players. If they don't then the NRL will.
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"THE SALARY CAP IS KILLING RUGBY LEAGUE, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
Until it is increased/removed Union will poach all our best players. If they don't then the NRL will.'"
Without going in to details I know Wigan are looking at doing everything possible to keep Sam tomkins. I imagine more news will come out in the weeks/months after the four nations.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Without going in to details I know Wigan are looking at doing everything possible to keep Sam tomkins. I imagine more news will come out in the weeks/months after the four nations.'"
What ever they do they cant compete with the Six Nations, Lions tours, 2015 World Cup and the media profile of the top union players.
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| Quote blackfrost="blackfrost"What ever they do they cant compete with the Six Nations, Lions tours, 2015 World Cup and the media profile of the top union players.'"
Maybe some players just can't say no to the money which I don't blame them. It's not just a game for them but a job.
I've a funny feeling both Sam and Joel would stay at Wigan if the money was the same.
I'd love to go in to details but I've sworn not to go in to details.
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| Quote blackfrost="blackfrost"What ever they do they cant compete with the Six Nations, Lions tours, 2015 World Cup and the media profile of the top union players.'"
Maybe not but a greater sporting achievement would be for England RL to beat OZ in a Four Nations/World Cup Final. And with a little tweaking and maybe a different coach and we could see this happening soon with a little help from Sam!
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| I thought Sam had a good game today. Hopefully he'll have an even better one next Saturday!
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| Yeah maybe about the money however, only in the short term. Sam Tomkins is clearly ambitious and proving himself in England at the Union World Cup with all the added benefits would be a massive incentive and to do this he would have to switch within the next season or at the latest the season after that. If he missed this deadline his value would decrease and he would have missed the boat financially. I do not think people appreciate just how much the RFU want the 2015 competition to be successful both on the field and off. Tomkins would be a poster boy for England and his profile would match that of all the major stars from the Southern Hemisphere and those here. Unfortunately neither Wigan or England league can live with this regardless of the money situation. The RFU could and would if they believed it to be correct throw a silly amount of money on the table and Sam Tomkins would leave at the end of the Four Nations and Wigan would be powerless to stop him.
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| Quote blackfrost="blackfrost"Yeah maybe about the money however, only in the short term. Sam Tomkins is clearly ambitious and proving himself in England at the Union World Cup with all the added benefits would be a massive incentive and to do this he would have to switch within the next season or at the latest the season after that. If he missed this deadline his value would decrease and he would have missed the boat financially. I do not think people appreciate just how much the RFU want the 2015 competition to be successful both on the field and off. Tomkins would be a poster boy for England and his profile would match that of all the major stars from the Southern Hemisphere and those here. Unfortunately neither Wigan or England league can live with this regardless of the money situation. The RFU could and would if they believed it to be correct throw a silly amount of money on the table and Sam Tomkins would leave at the end of the Four Nations and Wigan would be powerless to stop him.'"
Dont talk daft he has a contract and it is worth something before people come on churping about it not being worth the papper its written on, if wigan didn't agree a transfer fee you really think the RFU would allow them selves to look like idiots be registering the player and giving rugby league more publicity? also allowing them selfs to be open to law suit? (que the person who knows all the precedents on this even with out studying law) if Sam really want's to go and WIGAN dont want to stand hes way then he can go but if WIGAN say no he wont be going. its about time a rugby league club looked at tottenham and modric saga for some good advice put the rfu through it once they wont come back.
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| Great to see himn put in a good display today, ended with 4 tries but in reality he could of had double that if Sinfield stopped passing to the player stood next to him, and forgetting we have a second phase of runners.
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| Glad the England fans got behind the lad too today, it was a pleasure to watch him today.
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| Full page article about Sam in today's Sunday Times. The piece is written by the paper's chief sports writer, who suggests Tomkins may be the best English player in either code. Interestingly, there's very little in the way of speculation regarding immediate interest from union sides. I'd imagine the writer is pretty well connected with union types and would know if any offers were likely to be made in the short term - and I suspect he'd mention it if there were, as without it the article's a bit bland TBH.
For Sam's part, he states that he's contracted for two more years with a further two year option. He states that he may play either union or in the NRL in the future but for now is concentrating solely on being successful with Wigan and England. I'd post a link but I think all the Times articles can only be read by subscribers (unless, of course, you buy the paper).
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Full page article about Sam in today's Sunday Times. The piece is written by the paper's chief sports writer, who suggests Tomkins may be the best English player in either code. Interestingly, there's very little in the way of speculation regarding immediate interest from union sides. I'd imagine the writer is pretty well connected with union types and would know if any offers were likely to be made in the short term - and I suspect he'd mention it if there were, as without it the article's a bit bland TBH.
For Sam's part, he states that he's contracted for two more years with a further two year option. He states that he may play either union or in the NRL in the future but for now is concentrating solely on being successful with Wigan and England. I'd post a link but I think all the Times articles can only be read by subscribers (unless, of course, you buy the paper).'"
I would agree with him ashton is there stand out player and i would actually say myler is a better support player than him. tomkins is twice the player i wouldn't be to upset if he went to the Nrl if he wanted to earn more money and make a name for him self over there.
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