Nobody's asking for it to stay the same. What we all want is more investment from the RFL. The game cannot sustain 14 teams.
They screwed up with the Stobart deal, we have no major sponsor.

Fylde_Warrior complains about doffing the cap but then wants to Dr K to have a free hand to spend as much as he wants. Salford fans will be on bended knee.

Just out of interest, what is Lenegan's total wealth?

Based on the quotes in the article IL falls into the first category.

Absolutely correct. I'm not sure if it's hilarious, worrying or sad.

Probably a combination of all 3.

Some people simply cannot understand that RL has been spoon fed an artificial competitive advantage for the vast majority of it's entire life. Those days are now gone.

As a recent RL convert, I think the salary cap is working for RL as a whole but it does have some problems.
Without the cap, the best players would be concentrated into 2 maybe 4 clubs and it would be like the Scottish Premier League (pointless as a competition lets turn up for the playoffs).
Clubs would be living on the edge of financial ruin to compete and we would see more going bust. That can't be good for the game. IMO this would lead to greater player drain, as they would have to leave to achieve their rugby ambitions.
While I Dont like the comments IL made financially it makes sense. IMO IL is doing a good job for wigan within the current limits and constraints.
RL is a great product which IMO is being mismanaged by RFL, to increase the salary cap we need to get more money into the game as a whole not individual clubs.

The pro / anti IL debate is a distraction. Few people with maybe one exception are 100% anti-IL. Posts going off on a tangent accusing people of disagreeing with IL on the issue being discussed for all sorts of odd reasons just don't deal with the issue at all.

Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to recall you have been a big supporter of the salary cap in the past? If so does that mean you agree with IL's comments? I'd be far more interested to hear your views on that than a have a lecture on how lucky we are to have him.

Not sure but from memory he sold his business interest and netted around £20m for his share of the business (although I have no idea whether the original management buy-out he lead was debt funded and there was outstanding debt to pay off or how much, if any, capital gains tax he'd pay on this). I'd imagine you're probably looking at somewhere around the £25m'ish area but pure guesswork at the end of the day (although slightly educated guesswork).

Lenegan is a clever guy. He runs Wigan to its limit of profitability and he knows to make the life of him and the club easier he needs to keep the RFL on side. If he makes them think he is in support of keeping it where it is then they may be more inclined to help if we require it. Also they may be more inclined to do a vote expecting him to support stagnation but he may in fact vote the other way. Hes a clever guy and I wouldnt bet that there isnt something to read between the lines here.

People are talking like it is impossible for the salary cap to be lifted because the club invests in other areas and are asking the question would they be happy for ticket prices to increase to pay for an increase in the cap. Well sorry clubs have always invested in these areas so it is hardly anything new and I actually think people have become brainwashed by the whole the game is skint brigade.

Clubs now get more TV money than they ever had before, £1.2 million a year at the last count. In addition season tickets and match day tickets have gone up on a fairly regular basis since the salary cap was introduced. Attendances at most clubs are also up dramatically, more than double in some cases. The game has never really had huge sponsors anyway so I doubt the lack of sponsors today even has an effect compared to times gone by, even say a £700,000 League sponsorship deal is at most £50,000 per club without the RFL even taking a cut. Bearing all this in mind I really do find it hard to believe that the game is as hard up as some claim, and dont forget it is in all of these owners’ interests to claim that it is for obvious reasons. Any clubs that have gone to the wall have done so because of mismanagement as there is no reason for any club to do so if it lives within its means and besides the salary cap hasn’t prevented this anyway.

Looking at the days pre-salary cap, as I said in my initial post there are Wigan players that got paid far more pre salary cap than players today and that is not even taking into account inflation, never mind the players at the start of the salary cap who got far more in real terms. In the 80s and 90s, 16 year olds got thousands, and in some cases 10s of thousands, for signing professionally, big transfer fees were common and we had a proper reserve league. We also had players signing from RU for big money, often funded by sponsors and many paid for themselves by what was put onto the gate, incentives and initiatives like this will never happen with the salary cap as it is. We also had quite a few clubs with superstar players and much better squads than what we have today, just look at some of the players that even clubs like Castleford had in the 90's. Just about all of this has disappeared or fallen victim to cost cutting. Where has all this money gone? Why has the major sources of income risen, such as TV income, ticket prices, attendances but the salary cap hasnt even gone up by inflation? The salary cap in its present form has created a very lazy and complacent league where innovation and investment are discouraged. Decisions regarding the salary cap, play off structure and anything else where the owners have a vested interest need to be taken out of their hands because it certainly isnt doing the game as a whole any good.

So you have no idea Paul re IL's wealth.

Do fans not commit a bigger % of their income.

N.B IL has not spenty any of his personal wealthat Wigan and will make money on his investment when he sells the club.

The salary cap is a terrible policy. It has achieved nothing positive and has had a negative impact upon SL. It disuades potential investors from investing in RL.

See top of page and as previously stated the answer is no for the vast majority.

If the salery cap did not exist Wigan would have won more trophies.

Or gone bust without another Central park to sell...

the investment you talk about, where has IL paid that money from then?