Good win by wire. They defended very well and took their chances.

We gave up possession in our 20 too many times - credit to wire for putting the pressure on.

Our backline play didn't really link - again credit to wire for putting the pressure on.

Final point. I wonder what the rfl will do about westwood punching sam? I know that if it had been another player there would already be 10 pages on the subject......

Errm, there will be nothing done about Westwood. I mean come on, what a 'cheap shot' mixing it with the backs. That's why we need an enforcer like Westy.

I'm sure we will find out after the weekend if there is any case to answer.....the same day we find out what action will be taken against ST for trying to throw his weight around with a few punches on his first game back after suspension for getting involved where he didn't need to be.

As for the overall Wigan performance I think they shouldn't get to hung up about not playing well.......they simple were not allowed to play well by a well drilled, well planned and thoroughly committed Warrington team

He should have been in the bin, but Albert obviously decided against it. I'd be surprised if he gets suspended - even if it was 15 times worse than what Sam did against Hull.

I hope this game will also put to bed the rubbish in the media about wigans tackling technique - warrington outwrestled us completely last night.

No complaints at all about it but it woud be nice not to have a witch hunt for something that every other team does.

Charnley and Marsh are average at this stage. I can't see Marsh making it at SL level. With Richards & Gleeson it would have been different. At the moment you are competing due to superior coaching.

6 games in and everyone is shltting bricks !!!

You don't become a bad team in a week. Wire were far better in every department last night.....end of......will they carry it on through to Old Trafford ? Who knows !

Lets not forget that Brett Finch will improve 10 fold (not an excuse for last night by the way) and on NRL form will set SL on fire when he clicks....be patient - The future is VERY VERY BRIGHT !

I just hope Fielden returns with the same fire in his belly as last year because he was immense. Lima may not be playing at his best BUT again remember that he is playing more game time than Feka could even dream about. Once our forwards all return I think normal service will resume - Farrell was a huge loss last night which I think contributed to the lack of gusto in the forwards.

It is far to early in the season for the Wire fans to be getting excited and far to early for us to be letting our @rses twitch. Its not how you start its how you finish !

Chill and let the coaching staff do their job - They haven't let us down so far have they ?

Rather than start a new thread I'm going to stick my neck out here and ask, just ask a question:
Have we been/ are we being found out this year?
Not withstanding the fact that key players like Fielden, Richards and Gleeson are missing does the fact that our games have been much closer this season indicate that other teams have now cottoned on to our tactics, have developed a way of ullifying them and we are going to find it much tougher this season without an obvious plan B?
Is this a consequence now of being the team to beat rather than the team that is doing the beating? If that makes sense.

Are we ? Like many on here when I heard we'd signed the melbourne storm front rower I thought we'd finally fixed a long standing issue - we needed an enforcer style prop .. It's well documented.

This guy is light weight. Can anyone honestly say he looks significantly better than any of our existing props?

I rarely make comments on a rival teams board, but having read the many insightful summaries of last nights game on here, I thought I would say how nice it is to read so many thoughtful posts.
The only one I have to question is the statement that Sam didn't do anything wrong before Westwood threw a punch at him. From what I could see, Sam was trying to use Westwoods head to make a hole in the turf. No excuses for punching - but!
Sam could be a fantastic player if he would only learn to use his undoubted skills to hurt teams rather than trying to use his fists.
And finally, everything said about Alibert is correct. How he is allocated such games is beyond me.
Anyway, always enjoy visiting the DW.

The main reason we lost is Wire played how we played last year and it shocked us. Makes sense why smith didnt moan about our tackling technique now because he knew it was legal and wanted to do it himself. Wire fans will have to stop moaning now their team are doing it though. Tbh the select wire fans that did were probably dense bandwagon jumpers anyway.

He's better than the prop he replaced. He makes c100m per match. He doesn't shy away from work.

The fact that he's not what people expected perhaps says more about them than him. I would suggest that the people who thought he was an 80 minute Feka have only watched a few clips of him on youtube and haven't watched him play in full games. He's a typical Melbourne forward. hard working, consistent but not a world beater. Remember melbourne had Ryan Tandy, of whitehaven fame, as one of their GF winning props.

Here's the issues player by player
1, Sam:
Been found out. A good coach can spot his runs when he links up with the 3/4 line. Coaching issue.
2 Goulding:
Solid not got any spark about him in attack running with the ball or leaping after a high kick.
3 Marsh
Not SL standard as of yet, offers very little threat in attack and ball for his winger.
4 Carmont
No issue.
5 Charnley
Lacks experience felt the pressure of a big game, will come with time.
6 Finch
Off the pace, looked out of sync with the rest of the team in attack, however, very good in def for a HB.
7 No issue
8 Coley
A plodder.
9 McM
Asked to do too much. Crucial position, he's not the finished article and MM plays him for 70mins +.
10 Prescott
No issue
11 Hansen
Rarely steps up in a big game.
12 Hoffmann
Excellent
13 Lockers
No issue, just wasn't his day.
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Roberts-Get rid. Totally lacklustre.
Mossop-Excellent
Lima-Just needs to find his feet
Tuson-still learning his trade, pushed in due to injuries.

Strange how it was your worst performance under Maguire since the last time we beat you at the DW.

On a positive note for you, Finch will be one of the signings of the season when he gains match fitness.

Well we have been pretty good under him haven't we.

Fully agree about Finch even if the guy, sorry pr1ck, behind me wants him on the next plane home.