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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"No the crux of my argument is anyone justifying the signing of Pryce because he may earn little is missing the point of how the salary cap rules work.
So it is everything to do with the rules.
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So are you suggesting it would be better to go in with 24 front line players?
I may be being thick, but surely if the coaches deem hit good enough to be in the top 25 players, and the money men can accommodate him without damaging the squad, breaking the wage structure or rules, the whole should he be a top 25 player is irrelevant.
If you do not think he is good enough fair enough, but I fail to see really what relevance this entire top 25 issue has, assuming we have not broken any rules to sign him for a further year, which under the live system I assume we have not as we would not be able to register him if we had.
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| Quote Briggsy82="Briggsy82"Hi all,
This is my 1st post on here so be nice
, Some of you may remember me from my previous profile as The Rooster. It's good to be back
I believe that the re-signing of Deacs for another year is a big bonus for us next season as it allows us so many options around the halfs.
I have read the thread over & do agree with both sides of the argument regarding Price, I didnt mind him re-signing for another year as its a position in the squad covered. I remember a couple of seasons ago we was praying to be in a position like this where every single position within the squad had ample cover. Now we're here we find ourselves arguing over a player taking a squad place, Not starting 13, a squad position, and how refreshing it is to see imo. It just shows how good a state our club is in at present & I for one hope that if called upon, Price will do a job for us.'" Funny you said the opposite when we talked about it
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| Whichever way you look at it Pryces one year extension has been approved by Maguire, Wane and Lenagan, so like it or lump it he's here.
I've said it before and will say it again I think it was the correct thing to do. He rarely concedes tries and scores his fair share. Can he do better? Yes, and I do believe this will be his last chance. I don't see him keeping any of the younger players out of the team if they earn that place, that's how it worked last season, they all got their chance.
Just on Dave O's point, it'll be interesting to see where Gareth Hock fits in the "salary scale" on his return in June
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| If/when Hock returns he will have to fit under the cap. Should the club pay him a very small amount in 2011 then the RFL can invoke their "salary cap worth" clause, I think.
That is to get around clubs listing players as getting buttons when everyone knows they are quality players who's worth is far more than the club is declaring for SC purposes.
MM has declared that Hock may well return so I'd imagine Wigan RL have already discussed this in depth with the RFL and will go with their ruling on it.
As is known, if any player is not fitting under the cap then he will not be registered to play by the RFL.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"So are you suggesting it would be better to go in with 24 front line players?
I may be being thick, but surely if the coaches deem hit good enough to be in the top 25 players, and the money men can accommodate him without damaging the squad, breaking the wage structure or rules, the whole should he be a top 25 player is irrelevant.
If you do not think he is good enough fair enough, but I fail to see really what relevance this entire top 25 issue has, assuming we have not broken any rules to sign him for a further year, which under the live system I assume we have not as we would not be able to register him if we had.'"
The shirt numbers would seem to imply that he's outside the top 25. If that's the case (and given that no other club has shown any interest in him, it seems likely), I think keeping him on is fair enough.
While I take DaveO's point about KP taking a part of the £50k "second tier" SC that would otherwise go to Davies and the 6 new lads, I think they can afford to be patient for another year or two.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"The shirt numbers would seem to imply that he's outside the top 25. If that's the case (and given that no other club has shown any interest in him, it seems likely), I think keeping him on is fair enough.
While I take DaveO's point about KP taking a part of the £50k "second tier" SC that would otherwise go to Davies and the 6 new lads, I think they can afford to be patient for another year or two.'"
There's no way Pryce will be outside the top 25.
IMO Charnley will go out on loan to a SL club, not been massively impressed with Marsh from what i've seen but again, i'd loan him out.
After those two, if we released Pryce who would be ready to step into the outside backs if needed?
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"There's no way Pryce will be outside the top 25.
IMO Charnley will go out on loan to a SL club, not been massively impressed with Marsh from what i've seen but again, i'd loan him out.
After those two, if we released Pryce who would be ready to step into the outside backs if needed?'"
Personally, I'd have Roberts, Charnley & Marsh ahead of KP, even if it meant recalling them from loan. In fact, going off their U20's form (where they've consistently looked more impressive than Pryce), I'd have King & Russell ahead of him, too.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"Personally, I'd have Roberts, Charnley & Marsh ahead of KP, even if it meant recalling them from loan. In fact, going off their U20's form (where they've consistently looked more impressive than Pryce), I'd have King & Russell ahead of him, too.'"
But would it really be worth recalling them from loans for the sake of (probably) 1 game?
I imagine Roberts will (or at least should) get in the side anyway, even though Sams got the 1 shirt I think they've just gone with the team that finished the season, I think he'll move back to 6.
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| Jusst like to say good luck to Mr Pryce, the powers that be must se something in him otherwise he would have been cast a drift to a lesser club ( no names mentioned [size=50wire[/size.
All the best for 2011 karl.
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| Quote 8inarow="8inarow"Jusst like to say good luck to Mr Pryce, the powers that be must se something in him otherwise he would have been cast a drift to a lesser club ( no names mentioned [size=50wire[/size.
All the best for 2011 karl.'"
I'm looking forward to many more arguments with fellow Wigan fans over the skills of Karl
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"But would it really be worth recalling them from loans for the sake of (probably) 1 game?
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I'd say so, yes. That's the whole point of the loan/dual reg system. We recalled Charnley from HKR for a single game (admittedly it was aginst HKR, so he couldn't have played for them anyway), and also Ainscough from Cas for one game.
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I imagine Roberts will (or at least should) get in the side anyway, even though Sams got the 1 shirt I think they've just gone with the team that finished the season, I think he'll move back to 6.'"
True - though he'll probably be covering for Pat until he's recovered.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"I'd say so, yes. That's the whole point of the loan/dual reg system. We recalled Charnley from HKR for a single game (admittedly it was aginst HKR, so he couldn't have played for them anyway), and also Ainscough from Cas for one game.'"
I'm pretty sure if we were to send Charnley out on loan he wouldn't be able to be recalled for the first month. Also, Ainscough and Charnley never returned to the clubs they were at. If we recall them, chances are they aren't going back out on loan to those same clubs and we'd have to find a new one. They won't take too kindly to being messed around and having to sort out a new loan deal because we keep recalling players for just a single match. It would disrupt the player and clubs would think twice before taking our players on loan.
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