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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "In your mind maybe, not in anyone else's.'"
if you read the thread you will find you are wrong |
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| Quote: Clearwing "I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. I suspect a similar process is underway with the CC and 10 years hence very few people will regard it as a comparable success. Which, if correct, is a great pity.'"
The challenge cup is still massive but only when you get to the semi-final really. |
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| Quote: sgtwilko "in no shape or form is winning a challenge cup a comfort if you lose the gf. '"
Lets hope the Leeds players are of the same low opinion of the Challenge Cup on Saturday.  |
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| Quote: Mother Feka "No doubt if Leeds win on Saturday the Challenge Cup will suddenly become amazingly important to them ![]()
30,000 down to Wembely if they get there as well 
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| Quote: Odemwingie "30,000 down to Wembely if they get there as well ![]()
29,999
Its Live on BBC so Damo won't be going.
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| Quote: Clearwing "I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. '"
But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.
IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.
(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!) |
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| Quote: Geoff "But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.
IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.
(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!)'"
The greatest achievement surely has to be the hub cap, but is the least recognised - financially and status wise. (i.e. The best team over the course of the season) as opposed to two seperate competions (CC - 5 games to win), (GF 3-4 games to win). |
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| Quote: sgtwilko "if you read the thread you will find you are wrong'"
You obviously didn't read the thread. |
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "You obviously didn't read the thread.'"
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "In your mind maybe, not in anyone else's.'"
Not anyone elses ey?
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "No disrespect  But not so for a club who are constantly winning, and where the reality is that in comparison to the GF, the CC might aswell be the old Yorkshire/Lancashire cups.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy " The Challenge Cup is like the old Yorkshire/Lancashire cups, if you win it fine and yes as with any winner you celebrate it, but as long as you win the big one who really gives a 5h1t. Â And that is basically what it means to us.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy " and thats the problem with the CC, supporters attitude towards it. Im not saying thats wrong but its quite sad that less and less fans seem to care about it.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Well sure, the players and fans would love a trip to Wembley and we wont deny we would like to win the CC this year.
BUT if it was a choice between the CC and winning 4 in a row then it's simple. GF wins everytime.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "i don't think anyone would question weather the league and grand final are worth more than the cup.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "i agree it would be nice for Leeds to win the cup. IMHO I think the players want it more than the fans. but as a fan I would alway want to be champions over cc winners.'"
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. I suspect a similar process is underway with the CC and 10 years hence very few people will regard it as a comparable success. Which, if correct, is a great pity.'"
Looks like a few have similar thoughts
Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "You obviously didn't read the thread.'"
I think I did pal! |
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Not anyone elses ey?
Looks like a few have similar thoughts
I think I did pal!'"
Thanks for going to all that trouble to prove my point. ![]()
You said only in my mind is the gf a bigger prize than the cc.
a few agree with me. you moved away from the point I made and said that winning both is an a prefered option? Do ya think! If you have a point it's lost on me. |
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| Quote: sgtwilko "but thats not what i said is it fella.
You said only in my mind is the gf a bigger prize than the cc.
a few agree with me. you moved away from the point I made and said that winning both is an a prefered option? Do ya think! If you have a point it's lost on me.'"
Jebus wept.
I basically said you were posting like it was a choice between winning the CC or GF - NOT which was the bigger prize. Capice? |
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Jebus wept.
I basically said you were posting like it was a choice between winning the CC or GF - NOT which was the bigger prize. Capice?'"
My honest opinion is the harder the comp gets the tougher it is to win both. The next team that does needs huge respect! |
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| y r most y wire fans so mouthy, i no you get good and bad fans at all clubs at all sports but y iz it the only trouble i hear about and the mouthy experiance i av encouterd has come frm a wire fan, are they really the scum of superleague,  
errrrr yeah i think so,
wigan 4 eva. |
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