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| As posted twice already in the last couple of pages - WE CAN'T KEEP HIM AT ALL, IN [uANY[/u CAPACITY.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"As posted twice already in the last couple of pages - WE CAN'T KEEP HIM AT ALL, IN [uANY[/u CAPACITY.'"
so your saying theres no way or means for him to be kept at the club in any sort of capacity give over will ya theres ways and means around everything if they want to keep him they will.
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| Quote andyed-wiganrl="andyed-wiganrl"
Furthermore, if you keep cHock on then do you really think he's going to give up coke for the next two years!?
people coming on here saying send him to schools etc?!! what a joke...if people think just because he has been caught he'll give it all up and be an ambassador against drugs then they're seriously dilluded!! If he couldnt refrain when he had everything to lose, why is he going to now, when theres no sanction for the next two years....he may as well continue.'"
There [iis[/i a sanction in the next two years because if he wants to resurrect his career he must submit to regular drug testing during the two years and if he is caught again then it is a life ban.
Will that thought keep him off the stuff? Anyone's guess.
In any case as has been pointed out he faces a total ban from involvement with the sport during those two years so there is nothing he can do for Wigan anyway even it being an ambassador against drugs was realistic (which it isn't IMO).
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| sack him, and if he goes down the green vigo route thats his decision.
if hes any brains he'll keep his head down for 2 years, then get back playing.
if hes no brains, then its the slippery slope beckoning.
i hope the lad keeps his head down
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| Quote wiggywigwig="wiggywigwig"so your saying theres no way or means for him to be kept at the club in any sort of capacity give over will ya theres ways and means around everything if they want to keep him they will.'"
No I'm not saying it the RFL are:
Quote wiggywigwigA Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL.'"
Is it really THAT difficult to understand? What do you think would happen if the club decided they would break the conditions of a doping ban?
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| Quote wiggywigwig="wiggywigwig"so your saying theres no way or means for him to be kept at the club in any sort of capacity give over will ya theres ways and means around everything if they want to keep him they will.'"
How do you get round this then from the rules?
D3:10.9.1 A Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL.
I will translate: Hock can't take part in [uany[/u activity organised by Wigan.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"How do you get round this then from the rules?
D3:10.9.1 A Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL.
I will translate: Hock can't take part in [uany[/u activity organised by Wigan.
Dave'"
now is it me or does the rfl rules state he CAN be kept on by the club in some form
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| Quote wiggywigwig="wiggywigwig"now is it me or does the rfl rules state he CAN be kept on by the club in some form'"
Its you. Wouldn't really be much of a ban if he could still be involved within the game would it? Read that as being a recipient of anti-drug education or rehabilitation by the RFL or a club.
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| Benzoylecgonine is one of several metabolic products of cocaine. It is formed from the hydrolysis of cocaine and is a very specific marker for the presence of that drug. If, however, benzoylecgonine is found in the urine, it is not evidence of illicit cocaine use.
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| i for one dont feel Hock should be kept on at the club..........he has brought shame on our club and should in no way be rewarded for what he has done.
He was always aware what would happen if he got caught with drugs in his system..yet he CHOSE to do it anyway.
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| Quote Smooth Stu="Smooth Stu"I wonder how many would want to keep a cocaine user if he was an apprentice, or a steward, or someone in the ticket office? It seems in the main that people want to keep hold of Hock purely for his rugby skills. I wonder if it was Tim Smith, or Richie Mathers would they be after the same result?
Rules are there to be adhered to, so if the rule is a sacking it shouldn't matter who it is.'"
I don't think anyone would really care
I think you'll resign him when the ban is finished anyway, but he won't be anywhere near the same player.
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| Keep him on. Everyone deserves a second chance imo (well most people!)
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