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| Re: Hull KR - I didn't see anything that would threaten Leeds or Saints at the moment and I thought Cooke was terrible. Complete passesnger.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "They are a mid table team with a slightly above average coach.
I concur Re Dobson as he is a very good player.
The reality is that a club with the stature of Wigan, although having no "right" to beat Hull KR, "should" be beating Hull KR.'"
I don't know whether or not he's slightly above average as a coach but to me Hull KR were considerably better organised and prepared than Wigan. They also didn't have any overweight players. I'd swap coaches with them in a heartbeat.
Dobson's kicking game was very good, he is a quality scrum half and we haven't had anyone play as well in that position since... well, Dobson! It underline how much we need a real scrum half.
I couldn't help thinking that Dobson and Tomkins would make a superb half back partnership.... not that BN would play Tomkins though...
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| Quote: Roverswall "To dream of Martin scoring at wembley when you used to be a good side AGAIN
Jesus - considering how much you go on about Wigan not being a great club & "not the centre of the RL universe" you've spent a hell of a lot of this evening on our board. Seems to me that the first thing opposition fans do when they win is camp out on our board. Says it all really....
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Frankly I don't care if this "offends" anyone.
Losing to Hull KR is not good enough- they are a mid table side, whatever the current table would tell you.
Must do better.'"
I don't agree. In the current standard of SL they are a good side.
I will say the current standard is poor but they are a good side in the current competition.
Should they be a good side with the likes of Gene and Fozzard in there? No. But they are.
Dave
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| Quote: DaveO "I don't agree. In the current standard of SL they are a good side.
I will say the current standard is poor but they are a good side in the current competition.
Should they be a good side with the likes of Gene and Fozzard in there? No. But they are.
Dave'"
Now, now Dave, with that logical argument - I agree they are a good side, but its all relative - you are actually providing some support for BK that the SC isn't all its cracked up to be... the current standard of SL is poor. The visitors to this board won't like that...
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| Lets be honest over the past 5/6seasons, is it me or as the standard of SL got worse and worse??
On topic tho, I don't agree with the first post, I suppose Hull KR are performing above expectations? Still no threat to the likes of Stains and Leeds come the end of the season.
Yes we (Wigan) are now a mid-table team... as much as I don't like to say it... But our big reputation still means we have a say in signing big names unlike most mid-table teams
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| Quote: Deano G "Now, now Dave, with that logical argument - I agree they are a good side, but its all relative - you are actually providing some support for BK that the SC isn't all its cracked up to be... the current standard of SL is poor. The visitors to this board won't like that...'"
I don't "do" many salary cap any more because its here to stay. We have to live with it but I don't think it does any harm to point out "Good side" and players like Fozzard and Gene in it is a bit of an oxymoron.
Dave
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| Quote: JohnP "Jesus - considering how much you go on about Wigan not being a great club & "not the centre of the RL universe" you've spent a hell of a lot of this evening on our board. Seems to me that the first thing opposition fans do when they win is camp out on our board. Says it all really....'" Not really I was passing was bored saw one of you posters was talking complete horse manure so jumped right in.
The manure scould have been spouted on anyone of these boards its just that your line of manure seemed to be the most idiotic.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Frankly I don't care if this "offends" anyone.
Losing to Hull KR is not good enough- they are a mid table side, whatever the current table would tell you.
Must do better.'" arent you still way behind rovers in the table ,that tells its own story dosent it. HULL KR ARE BETTER THEN WIGAN TOP OV THE TABLE
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Agreed no god given right, however, I would disagree that they are a "top" team.
They are a mid table team with a slightly above average coach.
I concur Re Dobson as he is a very good player.
The reality is that a club with the stature of Wigan, although having no "right" to beat Hull KR, "should" be beating Hull KR.'" why do u really should be beating teams like HULL KR ur just a average team with average players
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| Quote: RB "ReCooke was terrible. Complete passesnger.'"
Yeah you say this but he didn't do a bad job of putting your main playmaker off his game (Smith) and he also scored the winning try, so i'll take that terrible performance.
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| Quote: cadoo "We can moan about the cap all day long but it is here and is here to stay. Deal with it.
Just because there is a salary cap it does not mean we cannot be a top side again. We have the money to buy players but instead lets focus on the young lads we do have and develop them. Michael McIlorum, Sean Ainscough, Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Paul Prescott, Eamon O'carroll, Darrell Goulding, Lee Mossop etc
Our two best performers for the last few weeks have been home grown - Sean O'loughlin and Gareth Hock. Your home grown players are vital to a successful side and considering Wigan have some of the best local talents in rugby league in the UK we should look to develop them into world class players to benefit the side and to put us back where we belong.
It pains me when I saw Shaun Briscoe keep Hull KR in the game by rushing over to push the ball into touch, stopping a certain try and then to see on our end Cameron Phelps beaten twice.[/quote]
exactly....despite the recent pat bashing thats been going on on here, we are a much safer option with pat at FB imo and i think as a defencive FB he offers more than the rest of SL....the closest thing to having rads back as youll ever get for a strong last line of defence and for that reason is why id always have him there. pat is our best FB and his best position imo is FB
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Agreed no god given right, however, I would disagree that they are a "top" team.
They are a mid table team with a slightly above average coach.
I concur Re Dobson as he is a very good player.
The reality is that a club with the stature of Wigan, although having no "right" to beat Hull KR, "should" be beating Hull KR.'"
Really poor.
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| Quote: Jimmybull "Really poor.'"
It's not really poor he's just missing he point.
A club with the stature of Wigan's (i.e. the biggest in the world) means their fans have huge expectations for their team whether they are a good side or not. And whether we like it or not we are currently an average side.
Any other mid-table side would accept being beaten by a similar level of players if they are the better on the day but that's simply not how it works in Wigan, and to be honest I'm glad that's how it is.
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| Oh, the irony. Brett Kenny was one of the finest players I've ever seen and the bloke who takes his name is a complete tool.
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