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| Quote: Stu M "Despite the fact that me and 90% of Saints fans have had a pop at Knowles? You just chose to concentrate on a couple of posters on RedVee rather than the overwhelming majority. Anyway we are still largely only talking about one player. Want me to mention Powell’s crusher on Bennison last Good Friday? Isa losing his head against Saints 2 or 3 times?
People in glass houses and all that, we can all play that game.
Dearie me, don’t let truth get in the way.'"
With all due respect Stu, I went on RedVee to see what was being said and left laughing at the way Smithies was dragged into it....again! I've been saying this for some time now (see our last disagreement on the Cooper thread for example) and again, in all fairness, you are as guilty as anyone in trying to defend Saints indiscretions. The Lees "lazy arm" was the latest. Sure you're taking a pop at Knowles now, along with a few of the better posters, but it's more in a "he needs to learn because his actions aren't helping Saints" manner rather than condemning him for being an out and out thug.
And, as I've said previously, you are one of the more reasonable Saints posters. Some of the dregs on there are trying to blame anyone and anything rather than the players themselves. Jukesy has a right to point it out because it's there in black and white...or should that be Redvee and white.
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| I dont think I've ever seen saints as a club or indeed a player at the mighty saints ever try to break the rules. It's a disgrace what the rfl are doing to them.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "I dont think I've ever seen saints as a club or indeed a player at the mighty saints ever try to break the rules. It's a disgrace what the rfl are doing to them.'"
Aint that the truth-lol
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| Quote: Jason65 "You cant handle the truth'"
His source told him Knowles would get sent off
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| Lees deserved his ban and Knowles was idiotic and deserves his too.
Not much else to say.
I do still think the Sironen one was mad though and you tackles like that in every game not get in any trouble. It was the definition of a committed tackle with a player taking the ball to the line. Those are the ones that leave me scratching my head, not the Lees and Knowles ones.
Congrats on the win at the weekend - enjoyable match to watch.
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| Only 2 games for Knowles. I find that pretty staggering tbh.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Lees deserved his ban and Knowles was idiotic and deserves his too.
Not much else to say.
I do still think the Sironen one was mad though and you tackles like that in every game not get in any trouble. It was the definition of a committed tackle with a player taking the ball to the line. Those are the ones that leave me scratching my head, not the Lees and Knowles ones.
Congrats on the win at the weekend - enjoyable match to watch.'"
Willie Isa's last ban was the most baffling recently. Possibly the best tackle I've seen since Leuluai on Fa'asavalu. The disciplinary notes said he released contact right at the end of the tackle. If that's the case...and I'm not convinced it was... the player was inches from the ground. I'm sure a grown man can survive a free fall of a couple of inches!
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Only 2 games for Knowles. I find that pretty staggering tbh.'"
Reckon that's about right.
The circumstances of it are monumentally stupid from Knowles but it's not a bad one.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Reckon that's about right.
The circumstances of it are monumentally stupid from Knowles but it's not a bad one.'"
Reckon 3 would've been fair, 1 for the actual tackle from the RFL and 2 from Saints for going in at 100mph with less than a minute on the clock in a game that was all over.
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| After the Dodd drop goal you could see Wellens shouting “short kick off” is he really that dumb?
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| I can’t lie, tonight is the first time I’ve watched Saints and breathed reasonably easy for 4 or 5 years. Watching Wellens and Matty Smith in deep conversation gave me a feeling of safety for some reason. I still think they’ll have a major say this season but something has definitely walked away with Woolf.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I can’t lie, tonight is the first time I’ve watched Saints and breathed reasonably easy for 4 or 5 years. Watching Wellens and Matty Smith in deep conversation gave me a feeling of safety for some reason. I still think they’ll have a major say this season but something has definitely walked away with Woolf.'"
Yes they're just not there atm. They could always burst into life at the right time and I think there's a good chance they will. But Walmsley and Sironen aside that was as poor a Saints performance as Iv seen since 2017. Leeds with no halfbacks,no subs and missed about 5 or 6 chances to win it.
Wellens just looks affected by everything. He looks too relieved when they win and too shaken when they lose. Warning his players to watch for the short kick off after the golden point drop goal is actually quite telling.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Yes they're just not there atm. They could always burst into life at the right time and I think there's a good chance they will. But Walmsley and Sironen aside that was as poor a Saints performance as Iv seen since 2017. Leeds with no halfbacks,no subs and missed about 5 or 6 chances to win it.
Wellens just looks affected by everything. He looks too relieved when they win and too shaken when they lose. Warning his players to watch for the short kick off after the golden point drop goal is actually quite telling.'"
They’ll be in there fighting for every trophy but clearly that drive they had under Woolf has gone (for now). That was a drive to not only win games but to win every battle within a game. When it really matters they’ll find it IMO but they’re well below their level at the minute. Wellens looks nervy and unsure of things up in the stands and Matty Smith being alongside him doesn’t un-nerve you (as good a bloke as he is).
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| Calm down lads. Matty Smith coaches our women’s side and is currently standing in for Fraysinous who has been in hospital unwell.
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