Always happy to be wrong.... Great win Wigan.

He would get better odds at the bookies but it's a bold statement to say Sts are 16 points better and
He should be brave enough to back himself

I was in the North Stand. I sat on the Vee. I had nothing to fear.

Superb win boys. That's more like it!

10 mins saints try dissallowed for crossing....... so predictable and well spotted by the ref & video ref

Wigan down to 15 men, Whats your excuse? You tried the crossing tactic and it didnt work....

Just a shame they never seem to pick up any obstructions when Wigan run two or three dummy runners who then stop and stand in the defences line.

More of a shame that you lot were so battered in the second half that you abandoned the midfield to Wigan. That was where you lost it. The result was nothing to do with contentious decisions, unlike your last two wins.

I'm not complaining about the result as Wigan deserved their victory today, I just have a dislike of how every team are now using dummy runners instead of the skill of a player to breach a defence.

Super league went through a stage of flat attack with no dummy runners. I do not ever want to go back to that stage, ever.

Stating the bleedin' obvious here, but....what goes around, comes around. When a reliable defense is worked out to counter dummy runners, tactics will change again. It's the measure of a good coach that can adapt & switch plays between games, but it's those actually on the park that have to expect the unexpected if they're going to get anywhere near a result. SOL being one of the best practitioners of said talent at the moment, which is why we tend to run rings around opposition when his head's screwed on right.

Well I was close with my prediction.. I got the points difference almost spot on..

I'm in France, it is raining,the sun is shining in my heart.

Looking at the current saints side I have to admit that I don't rate the majority of their side. Guys like Makinson, Jones, Wilkin, LMS, Flanagan & Turner aren't the kind of superstars like Long, Scully, Lyon, Pauleta were.

Thinking about it realistically was it ever in doubt? It was primarily Saints produced youth vs Wigan produced youth. The young wigan lads have always beaten their counterparts at every level for the past five years.

There's no comparison when you compare our emerging talent vs Anyone in SL.

In fairness to Saints there's no real comparison when you look at our side between guys like Goulding, Thornley and Smith to past players like Connolly, Renouf and Lam but that's superleague for you. The quality of player is possibly at an all time low but that has it's flip sides because clubs are producing more young English talent then ever before.

I agree with you when it comes down to the junior production currently though. Saints have some classy young players like Lomax, Makinson, Swift and Jones but these lads have been battered senseless at junior levels by guys like Sam Tomkins, Charnley, Farrell, Crosby and plenty more for years and that must have a mental effect when it comes to these first team games. They have some barriers to try and break down in that respect and it's a tough ask.