Second year in a row, we've lost a player we didn't expect to lose and will receive a transfer fee. So what?

We cant keep losing the quality we do, IL's ability to release anyone from a contract is ridiculous, with Hock gone, the one bit of spark in our pack is gone.

Unless Wigan want rid - for whatever bad apple reason - which doesn't seem to be rumored, I cant understand why we are letting him go.

So much for us standing by him.

Its season ticket renewal time, and whilst my money & application form are ready to go, I'm questioning whether it's worth bothering. I'm utterly disillusioned with RL and Wigan aren't helping, we've announced 2 more sponsors in the past day, so what? It means nothing without a successful team, which with Hock now going and the expected departures of Mossop and more importantly Sam in 12 months, its only getting worse.

Where has the expected departure of Mossop come from?

I'm basing it on all the rumours from the other threads about him having an NRL release or being off to Souths on some kind of loan deal.

Been told gaz as signed today 1 down upto 2 more to go.

Why are more going?

Cash.

Look out your window. Can you see golden sunny beaches, palm trees, beautiful blonde women holding cans of frosty cold beer?

So we 'are' trying to do it on the cheap ?

If Hock goes, the quality in the team will fall even more.

Sam T will certainly be off if he thinks he is having to do everything. That scenario didn't help us when we had Trent Barrett.

Tomkins is leaving after the world cup next year, never been any doubt about that with the contract he signed

Bobby Goulding reckons it's a done deal and that Parramatta have paid a big fee. 3 seasons of making a title challenge then rip the team up. Joke, What is the point of even watching next year. Won't surprise me if Sam just decides to announce this WILL be his last season. I thought IL taking over was supposed to be the best thing to happen to us. We got 3 world class players by fluke and had a stormer in 2010.

Since then they have all gone, Tommy has gone, Hock (allegedly) gone, Fielden gone, Russell gone, Joel gone, Gleeson done for drink/drugs (delete as applicable), Coley, Roberts and Deacon retired and not replaced with the same quality, forward line destroyed, Rumblings about Sam going.

Doesn't really bode well. The players brought in are the equivalent of schoolboy players in comparison to what we have let go.

Someone on the Saints board has hammered the nail on the head.

'Rats leaving a sinking ship'

Sinking very very quickly. And the silence from the club is deafening. It isn't fair on the fans. They want bums on seats then they have to prove they want us there rather than just pocketing the gate cash.

At the moment we are on par with the likes of Huddersfield and Hull KR, the likes of Wire and Saints will smash us next season.

Onion or NRL?

Just been reading the Oz links posted on here, and apart from the Hock story, there is also mention of George Carmont being signed. We were told he was 'retiring' .


[iMeanwhile, Hock's Wigan teammate George Carmont is expected to be among four signings new Warriors coach Matthew Elliott hopes to announce later this week,

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It is his inability to hold them to contracts that is the problem. There is no doubt in my mind a reason for this will be the club is being run as a business rather than being bank rolled at least to some degree by a wealthy owner such as at Warrington. In order to be able to resist offers of large doses of cash and hold players to contracts you have to be prepared to forgo the cash and let players leave for free at the end of contracts. We seemingly prefer the cash.

I fail to see the point of spending money supposedly got for selling Joel on Taylor if a few weeks later we have to replenish the coffers by selling Hock!



I can't see it. Being able to sell a player for big fee when you would be offering him around for sale doesn't work. That makes it a buyers market. A big fee, if that is what Wigan got, implies compensation not a nominal fee I'd expect for a club to take an unwanted player off our hands. In fact such a player would more than likely just be released not sold.

just about to get my season ticket but it makes you wonder if its worth bothering.

What sort of fee do you think would be appropriate if Wigan do sell Hock.