There are obvious paralell's and it's syptomatic of the same problem, if you want to call it a problem i.e. a breakaway top tier league fuelled by TV money going up against the sport's governing body and it's flagship knock-out competition. I don't think that Super League views the CC with the same disdain as the Premier League seems to view the FA Cup but it does appear that both leagues think that they are in competition with their corresponding governing bodies (the RFL and FA respectively), as opposed to working alongside them

Having Wire constantly droaning 'WEMBELEEEEEEEEEY......WEMBELEEEEEEY.....' at matches has ruined it for me.

Be interesting to read the views on here if you got there with it not being a big deal and all that.

Seem to remember it getting abit kiddy on here when you drew Catalan in the semi's

In all honestly, you are the reason i dont care about the CC anymore.

Knowing that such a poor team were capable of winning it devalued it greatly.

Thanks a bunch...

The poor team that beat you on the way in 2009?
or the poor team that beat the then current league champions in the 2010 final?

or that poor team you have only managed to beat 6 times out of the last 17 meetings and in that your last meaningfull victory was in febuary 2010 by a sultry 2 points

That's the one. The one that has never won a playoff game.

Think they've won one.

How predictable that this is slowly turning into another Wigan v Wire slanging match.

Wire fans need to stop being so senstive about accusations that the CC is easier to win than the Grand Final. It's quite obvious that it is, and there's no real argument to the contrary. That doesn't detract from the glory and honour of winning the CC, or having a great day at Wembley.

But the Cup is still of waning interest - not the final itself, but the overall concept. The purpose of this thread was not to decry Wire's achievement in winning it for the last two years, but to investigate why it's no longer the biggest fixture in the calender and maybe discuss possible solutions to that.

Agree with most of what you say here, I'd just change the "socialist tinted" bit to "condescending tw*ts"

I'd definitely give the CC to Sky but then make BBC show it in it's entirety, including the build up, the day after.

Its funny how the challenge cup loses its romance once you don't make many finals, how long is it now since you last appeared at wembley ? How long is it since you last lifted the challenge cup at wembley ?

You can bet your last £ that if Wigan had been appearing in any of the recent finals at wembley then the challenge cup wouldn't have lost any of its romance.

This thread comes across as a thinly veiled attempt to big up your grand final win and to put the challenge cup down as a cup thats not worth winning these days.

Very funny, i could belittle your grand final win by saying that it was one of the best oppertunities for a long time for a team outside of the usual names to get to a grand final due to St Helens being in regression and having no half backs at the time, you then had both Leeds and Warrington having the fatigue factor after the challenge cup final but i won't go down that road and say that the grand final lost some of its romance that year due to the above.

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such a poor attempt!

just cos u get knowhere in it anymore

Another reason for you not to go down that road would be that it's completely irrelevant to the thread.