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Just watched the game on the TV for the first time and still have absolutely no idea why Pryce gets criticised in this game.

The cretins in the east stand sat near me must be on crack.. I was doubting my sobriety after their constant moaning, but they've got to be higher than the bloody moon!

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So darrell Goulding averages an extra 0.5 metres per carry than Karl Pryce? People still think Pryce makes good metres? icon_lol.gif So Karl Pryce cant even match Gouldings meters and he is a LOT bigger, that just sums up what lets him down imo.

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Quote: Father Ted "Maybe Pryce and Goulding are not being selected on who is better than whom.
Perhaps they are being picked because MM wants to have a good look at Pryce over quite a few number of games.
MM may have decided that if Pat goes to fb then Pryce comes in on the left.
Should Amos go to 1 then Goulding will come in on the right.
It could perhaps be that either are being selected on where Pat and Amos play and that the coaching staff prefer Pryce left wing and Goulding right.
I just think the way the team have been selected we won't see Goulding play left wing nor Pryce on the right side.
Whether we like it or not I do feel that the selction of either Goulding or Pryce depends on where MM picks Pat and Amos rather than the merits of the two lads.'"



Now that seems to me to be a lot more of a valid arguement than many on here..sad that most will ignore it in favour of their own like/dislike and stuff the facts.

Pryce has done ok - not a lot more than that as yet - he certainly hasn't really stood out compared to others (and that surely is a better comparison) like Goulding. But given how long he has spent out with injury at least he deserves the chance. The coaching staff will manage things - and if they think he isn't performing well enough then he will be dropped - and that for me is about as fair as it needs to be.

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In the week after a game Madge has one on one talk with every player in the team to discuss their performance.

The conclusion of that is Madge must be happy with Pryces performance in the role he has been given. We all know that if a player does not perform to Maguires requirements they are dropped.

It's as simple as that. Just because we as spectators like/dislike a player means and should mean nothing, it's the coaches responsibility too pick the team HE thinks is best.

As I've said so many times about the likes of Fielden, Roberts and Riddell, the Wigan fans for some reason have to have a scapegoat, and I really can't understand it.

It's nothing new though, it's happened in all the time I have watched Wigan.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "In the week after a game Madge has one on one talk with every player in the team to discuss their performance.'"


I would love to sit in on the one between him and Feka.

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Quote: Wandering Warrior "So darrell Goulding averages an extra 0.5 metres per carry than Karl Pryce? People still think Pryce makes good metres?
you cannot make a correct judgement about the players without looking at the actual carries.

i am sure i could make more meters than certain players per carry if every one of my carries was running the ball back from a kick.

we know with both these players that they have both made a lot of easy yard from the work done inside them. how many times have we seen a winger running countless meters after an overlap, so in effect just running into empty space. thats why im a bit wary of looking at the meters made by a winger. if it was someone like joel, then meters made would be very interesting, because he makes alot of breaks for himself with the lines he runs.

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Quote: Steinlager "I would love to sit in on the one between him and Feka.'"


I don't think that one lasts very long. icon_biggrin.gif

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To join his brother at Saints ?

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I'm unsure about pryce, he can score from 10/15 yards out better than goulding (Would goulding have scored vs Saints on Sunday, knocking away foster?) but doesn't return the ball as well.

For me, keep him in the side if he's fit enough. Let him build up his confidence and score some tries. Pryce can be a good asset in the long run, he just needs a bit of form and confidence.

Goulding is a fringe player, yes this season he is on a hotstreak. But last time he got the starting jersey he lost all confidence and was back in the reserves.

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Quote: Steinlager "Although this will come across like i'm anti-Pryce, he actually did it 5 minutes before that. He was about to run into Foster and pulled up before diving to the floor infront of him. That jump just didn't help.'"


Exactly what I meant by my 'should have killed foster' comment. He ran at him 1 on 1 and got injured. I do think he pulled u before contact though so maybe he pulled summat.

I have no problem with Pryce. He is scoring tries which is what we pay him for, and as some have said his defence is quite solid. (Remember the hit on cudjoe anyone?) I think its the usual story of someone doesnt like you so never will no matter what you do.

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Quote: p1e e8ter "

Goulding is a fringe player, yes this season he is on a hotstreak. But last time he got the starting jersey he lost all confidence and was back in the reserves.'"


There is absolutely nothing wrong with his confidence this season so what may have gone on in the past in that regard is no justification for not selecting him over Pryce if that is the debate. In fact it's the opposite. If confidence is a factor in dropping and selecting players Goulding would be in the side as Pryce looks the least confident out of the two of them.

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Quote: Father Ted "Maybe Pryce and Goulding are not being selected on who is better than whom.
Perhaps they are being picked because MM wants to have a good look at Pryce over quite a few number of games.
MM may have decided that if Pat goes to fb then Pryce comes in on the left.
Should Amos go to 1 then Goulding will come in on the right.
It could perhaps be that either are being selected on where Pat and Amos play and that the coaching staff prefer Pryce left wing and Goulding right.
I just think the way the team have been selected we won't see Goulding play left wing nor Pryce on the right side.
Whether we like it or not I do feel that the selction of either Goulding or Pryce depends on where MM picks Pat and Amos rather than the merits of the two lads.'"


I think that is a pretty good observation. What would be interesting to see is if Goulding got a wing slot on the right if Pryce made the bench. In theory he offers cover for both wings and centres.

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Quote: DaveO "I think that is a pretty good observation. What would be interesting to see is if Goulding got a wing slot on the right if Pryce made the bench. In theory he offers cover for both wings and centres.

Dave'"


Pryce would never be put on the bench, nor would any other outside back. We always go with four forwards which is correct as we have more than enough versatility within the starting 13 to slot into the 3/4 line if there are injuries.

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Quote: MadDogg "Pryce would never be put on the bench, nor would any other outside back. We always go with four forwards which is correct as we have more than enough versatility within the starting 13 to slot into the 3/4 line if there are injuries.'"


With Pryce being as big as he is he ought to be able to cover every position in the team bar scrum half!

I know can't because he because he probably doesn't know how but the physique he has ought to make him a great utility player.

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Quote: DaveO "With Pryce being as big as he is he ought to be able to cover every position in the team bar scrum half!

I know can't because he because he probably doesn't know how but the physique he has ought to make him a great utility player.

Dave'"

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