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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Theres truth in what you say, however the same can also apply to Huddersfield who were prior to WW2 the true giants of RL ,and only really started to decline from the mid 1950's onwards.'"
Of course, and I would again agree up to a point. I suppose you can say that it's the fact that Wigan's 'history' is more recent and more impressive that makes the difference. You could draw parallels with, say the giants that were Leeds in Soccer and Man U. There's really no comparison. |
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| Quote: JLM23 "You sound like the Liverpool fans I work with. You attract players because of the money you pay them, nothing else. If you had been relegated and so couldn't pay as much money, do you think your history would have attracted star players, regardless of how rich it is. I seriously doubt it. Wigan have a greater History than Leeds now, however, who do you think Saints would fear playing more currently? I certainly wouldn't say I was wrong. ![]()
I'm sure you know that the bold a gross oversimplification and so I won't eneter into an argument with you. Not even a good effort..
As for the rest of it, it is a complete irrelevence. If we went bust and couldn't pay our players at all we would only attract amateurs. What's your point? We didn't get relegated and, whether you like it or not, our history does have a draw to players. We aren't regarded as 'the biggest name in RL' (as once said by your former coach DA among many others) because we are currently winning everything in sight. In fact we have only won one trophy in the last decade yet we are still regarded thus. And, eventhough it doesn't suit your argument, we can't actually pay players more money than other teams....it's called the Salary Cap! Still, if you think you weren't wrong, then I won't burst your little bubble. Carry on believing what you want. 
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I'm sure you know that the bold a gross oversimplification and so I won't eneter into an argument with you. Not even a good effort..
As for the rest of it, it is a complete irrelevence. If we went bust and couldn't pay our players at all we would only attract amateurs. What's your point? We didn't get relegated and, whether you like it or not, our history does have a draw to players. We aren't regarded as 'the biggest name in RL' (as once said by your former coach DA among many others) because we are currently winning everything in sight. In fact we have only won one trophy in the last decade yet we are still regarded thus. And, eventhough it doesn't suit your argument, we can't actually pay players more money than other teams....it's called the Salary Cap! Still, if you think you weren't wrong, then I won't burst your little bubble. Carry on believing what you want. ![]()
My Little Bubble? You think your History affects what happens now. Do you think Wakefield, Castleford e.t.c walked onto the pitch this year and thought oh god this is the great Wigan Rugby League, the biggest name in Rugby League, we really cant win. The scores would suggest that they didn't. The scores would suggest that your great past has absolutely no affect on what happens this year.
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| Quote: JLM23 "My Little Bubble? You think your History affects what happens now. Do you think Wakefield, Castleford e.t.c walked onto the pitch this year and thought oh god this is the great Wigan Rugby League, the biggest name in Rugby League, we really cant win. The scores would suggest that they didn't. The scores would suggest that your great past has absolutely no affect on what happens this year.'"
Well as a matter of fact you said history had no effect on the present and I have given you two perfectly good examples of where it can be said to directly have just such an effect. QED you were wrong. If you want to start quoting instances where it doesn't have an effect and expect me to derail the argument just to appease your inability to accept when you've made a mistake then you'll be sadly disappointed.
For the record, I could even raise an argument to counter your last post but, let's face it, my job here is done... |
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Well as a matter of fact you said history had no effect on the present and I have given you two perfectly good examples of where it can be said to directly have just such an effect. QED you were wrong. If you want to start quoting instances where it doesn't have an effect and expect me to derail the argument just to appease your inability to accept when you've made a mistake then you'll be sadly disappointed.
For the record, I could even raise an argument to counter your last post but, let's face it, my job here is done...'"
If you say so mate. Might as well agree to disagree, before I get accused of derailing threads again!  |
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There is a place in wigan, right next to Robin Park, where legends such as Farrell, and Radlinski made their mark. the boardroom's full of trophy's, its time we won some more, All the other teams know what we mean when they hear the Wigan roar.....:44841.jpg |
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I'd say the clubs great history (and lots of money) had an impact on gleeson signing. so yes it will impact on this year!
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| Quote: JLM23 "If you say so mate. Might as well agree to disagree, before I get accused of derailing threads again! ![]()
I prefer to agree you were wrong, but hey! Each to their own!
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Obssessed? ![]()
You must be, being on here after your team has played
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The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.: |
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| Quote: JLM23 "I think you must be the most bitter person I have ever seen in my life. The Salary Cap, the Rules, anything but the fact that we have the best side in the league are things you use to blame for us being in the position we are.You must have a constant taste of sour grapes in your mouth. ![]()
Not really.
I hold the moral high ground.
Your "victories" (and when you bottle it), mean nothing.
Take away the CC and you would finish mid table.
We all know that. *shrugs*
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WIGAN RLFC
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2010
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010
FLOODLIT 9 CHAMPIONS 2010
U20's VALVOLINE GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2010
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
MAN OF STEEL 2010 - PAT RICHARDS
YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2010 - SAM TOMKINS
COACH OF THE YEAR 2010 - MICHAEL MAGUIRE
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| Quote: JJ Warrior "I had to laugh when bradford had a try disallowed and Phil went NOOOOOOOO that was perfectly good try ![]()
made me laugh even more i was drinking in eddie cunninghams pub st.helens an they was shouting what does he know about rugby lol
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St. Helens RFC - 2014 League Leaders Shield Winners & Grand Final Winners: |
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Who is on the Wigan board and who is posting on the Stains board?
Enough said.
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And who is posting about Saints on a Wigan board - again?
Enough said sherlock
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Ah well, inbetween all our arogance a few serious people suggested this game was a potential banana skin. It is probably a bad result for wigan as they will be refocused for MM.
good luck at Wakey
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