Are you judging/rating Sam Tomkins for his age or as a first team SL player?

Open question to all before I provide feedback.

He looks like he could do to put on a bit more bulk TBH

yes lets bulk him up, coach the flair out of him and make him a robot like the rest of this bloody league

Now thats being sarcastic

Indeed.

The kid did not look out of place last night against the best team in the league (another positive is that Ainscough shone!!). Two lads performing well at the top level without being your typical Noble man mountains. Both have the talent to become match winners.....the future's bright!!

We must strengthen our front row next season, say goodbye to Bailey and Phelps and Coley and bring in that sh*thouse prop from the NRL and a top class centre to partner Ainscough.

He certainly looked "well stacked" in that dvd movie a few years back.

he just needs to keep getting stronger, keeping his flair and his pace if he loses this by getting huge then its another talent wasted. hes an athlete leave him that way. all you need is some grunt up the middle for him to play behind, the only thing is there aint none about.

He Looked Average At Best Against Leeds To Be Honest, Not Saying It Was Just Down To Him Though...

To be fair though in some cases the lads have been pretty big to begin with. Its more a case of people being played at half back who were too big to be halves in the first place. Already big kids were being turned into monsters.

Scott Moore was a bit of a physical freak at 16 years old.

I remember even then saying i thought he would end up at hooker or Loose forward due to his size.

As its turned out he looks like having the makings of a top class hooker.

As for Coyle well he is a failure, and Hull havent given Lee a definitive position which has stifled his development. I actually thought the other year on seeing Lee that he was bulking up to become a ball playing prop, such was his size.

Sam Tomkins reminds me of a young Tommy Martyn, slight of build but with that natural RL flair that cant be taught.
I hope for his and Rl's sake that he develops as a player, because British RL is crying out for players of genuine ability.
His body should be allowed to grow naturally with age, rather than be prematurely bulked out.

Swap Tomkins with McGuire or Burrows last night and i doubt they would of looked much better. Wigans forwards didnt make a platform for a half of any quality to play.

See you soon in the Co-op Cahampionship Sam, when Noble loses interest cos you're not 6 foot 4 and 16 stone. Real Rugby League beckons...

LOL dream on nutter

Such an intelligent, articulate and well thought out post.