I ask the question i ask to Brett, do you think the coach is utilising the squad to its maximum potential?

How long does BN get a honeymoon period for in your eyes?

Imagine if cullen coached this team

I never did.

Noble has always been a 1 dimensional coach. Smith has evolved adapted and learned.

No, I dont and his honeymoon period is clearly over. That being said, now we have a squad with options in it, Noble has to try and use them to get us out of this mess and should be given the chance too. We will disgaree on this point, but HE IS NOT A BAD COACH and if he can pick the right team we will do fine. But the pressure is building on him.

Do you think IL is blameless?

How long?

Brett i think you have taken your spin on responses from Brian Noble himslef.

We had him mate, and his "school teacher" method of coaching worked well for a year at saints, but then he lost his way, also losing the confidence of the players. One masterstroke he came up with was trying to swap Tommy Martyn for a division 1 stand off!

I have no idea. Its not something i can comment on as i do not know the facts.

What i can see is the onfield performance, good players do not become bad players when they sign for Wigan for no reason. I agree we should have brought in a Prop, but with 4 Fekas do you think we would have won today or last week?

There is a blatant fundemental error in the tactics of our team there has been for 2 years.

IFL could be the worst chairman in the world and only give the coach NL1 players, but if the coach does not cater his game plan to the players he has at his disposal he has to be held accountable.

Not at all. I think you need to ask yourself some questions though.

1. Do you think Nobby would start the season so short of props if it was HIS choice?

2. Do you think Nobby has his first choice number 6? TS is a 7 not a 6. (and a homesick one at that).


Surely with the release of TB, MH and MC there was enough money to give BN a free hand with regards to player purchase?


Imo IL has NOT done this.

IL is the problem here, not BN.

You sure about that?

The strongest players who are still at Saints now backed him to the hilt, he fell out with the board not the team due to his strong character, exactly what Wigan need right now.

explain how John Kear can get our lads minus 8 first teamers to raise their game, its man management not all skills of the field,
most of the players know what to do, its getting that bit extra enthusiasm that gives the drive to achieve that extra yard and tackle,

Noble has lost the will of the players and the that's coming for life experience and knowledge

I think the problem with Noble was that at Bradford he had a completely different set of players at his disposal. Its probably a bit disrespectful to say they never had a plan B as they only played one way, but plan A always worked so they never needed it

At Wigan, the players he had when he got there probably weren't his "kind of players" - however many of the Wigan signings since he has been in charge don't seem to be Noble's kind of players either. Its like he is having no say in the signings.

The thing is, Bradford were very much a big side, Anderson, Vagana, Fielden (when he was good ), Jamie Peacock doing all the graft in the middle, but then Vainikolo was acting as another forward but also had pace out wide and they had Vaikona on the other side. Even Michael Withers had a bit about him.

At Wigan, you have a different make up of players, maybe the reason players like Calderwood failed there, because Noble doesn't really know how to get the best out of a winger of that style. Fielden hasn't fitted in as well as at Bradford because he's playing in a different unit around players who aren't like Joe Vagana or Paul Anderson or Jamie Peacock

Wigan have always had a tendancy to chuck the ball about and play attractive RL. Like Leeds. That sort of style, and the players you have there already, will probably suit someone like Tony Smith more.

Plus, he might be able to have a word with Mathers, because he was alright when he left Leeds!

Explain

He was sacked after one game of the next season. So he lost his way, for one game against Bradford.



Hanley claimed that that myth (along with the one about trying to swap Cunningham for Richard Pachniuk) was one peddled by the Eric Hughes and the board to gain sympathy for their cause when the fans were supporting Hanley at the time they suspended him mid-season.