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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "The Enforcer prop is the worker prop. Leading by example making the hard yards and tackling up.

Look at it this way, start with a house enforcer/leader/capt and Feka for example, Enforcer (Ross, Luke Bailey will play for about 35mins being took off before half time (This is how they work these captain props in the NRL) Within this time you've had Feka smashing the line for 20. When he's blowing take him off an bring on another impact smashing the line for the rest of the half. Between the 2 you have 80mins of impact smashing the line. The younger prop (Prescott) fills in where needed, probably subbing for the enforcer. That's how to create a dominating front row.

You speak of a 'worker prop', well what do you think an Enforcer prop does? Just stand there pulling his face at the opposition? The young prop is a future 50/60min man, learning off the experienced enforcer.

Petro is too old. Bailey or Ross for me, Ross is more intimidating but Bailey has a great work rate. I would also consider the oger.'"


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The quota comes down next year as well which is something we will have to consider. At the moment it is 8 overseas players allowed in your squad. At the moment this is what we have:

Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
George Carmont
Tim Smith
Thomas Leuluai
Mark Riddell
Feka Paleaasina
Phil Bailey
Cameron Phelps
Harrison Hansen

Now I think Harrison Hansen and Thomas Leuluai don't count on any quota.

The five overseas players we have at the club at the moment are: Tim Smith, Phil Bailey, Mark Riddell, Amos Roberts and Cameron Phelps.

With George Carmont and Feka both having Samoan passports. Pat Richards being Irish.

Next season we will only be allowed 6 overseas players which so far we have:

Mark Riddell, Amos Roberts, Feka, Richards

We have 4 overseas players out of contract in George Carmont, Tim Smith, Cameron Phelps and Phil Bailey. Now out of them I would only like to sign up George Carmont and release the rest which would leave us with:

Mark Riddell
Amos Roberts
George Carmont
Feka Paleaasina
Pat Richards

Which only leaves us with 1 more overseas player we are allowed to sign for next season. So if we do need to recruit a prop forward and a halfback one of them will have to be British.

I hope that is right.

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Quote: cadoo "The quota comes down next year as well which is something we will have to consider. At the moment it is 8 overseas players allowed in your squad. At the moment this is what we have

Lynch + Halfback/ Other player

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Quote: The Joker® "Leeds Rhinos

Enforcer Kylie Leuluai
]Worker Jamie Peacock]
Impact Ali Lauitiiti
Youngster Luke Burgess



Jamie Peacock is the enforcer.
He is the one other teams will fear, he is the one who leads by example and is the first to get suck in when the fists are raised.


Ali Lau is a SR, It's Ryan Bailey who is the other prop.

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Quote: W!64N_ENTHUSI45T "Lynch + Halfback/ Other player'"

That or Myler and an Aussie Prop

(Myler's running the show against leeds atm)

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In recent games Lynch hasn't impressed me that much compared to the drives he was making last season. Maybe he's not 100% after his injury.

I think a good prop is hard to find (that could make a good song title)

I think if we're gonna import and spend big, lets get one good prop in, our front row is really lacking. It's really effecting us as a team.

I seriously don't know what to do with Fielden, he should be our main prop, but really isn't performing, it's actually upsetting!

Fekas doing us proud, but can only be on the field in spells.

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If we sign Lynch (without by some miracle offloading Fielden for the 2010 season) I will be disgusted.

Not the player we need at all!!!

Fielden should be replased by LMS assuming he does not do the decent thing and retire.

Lynch is not the enforcer we need he is the defenition of a work man, he may be a good player but lacks the persoanlity and the presence we need. Overseas is the only option for the Prop issue unless Morley of Peacock suddenly have a huge fall out with there respective clubs sadly.

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Quote: jonh "If we sign Lynch (without by some miracle offloading Fielden for the 2010 season) I will be disgusted.

Not the player we need at all!!!

Fielden should be replased by LMS assuming he does not do the decent thing and retire.

Lynch is not the enforcer we need he is the defenition of a work man, he may be a good player but lacks the persoanlity and the presence we need. Overseas is the only option for the Prop issue unless Morley of Peacock suddenly have a huge fall out with there respective clubs sadly.'"


totally agree, we have serious problems in the front row, Lynch is not the man to take us forward, as one of our front line players I wouldn't say no, but not the Peacock, Morley, or even Graham that we could do with. It says something when you start looking at Fozzard thinking did we miss an opportunity there!

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Quote: jonh "If we sign Lynch (without by some miracle offloading Fielden for the 2010 season) I will be disgusted.

Not the player we need at all!!!

Fielden should be replased by LMS assuming he does not do the decent thing and retire.

Lynch is not the enforcer we need he is the defenition of a work man, he may be a good player but lacks the persoanlity and the presence we need. Overseas is the only option for the Prop issue unless Morley of Peacock suddenly have a huge fall out with there respective clubs sadly.'"


I suggested Lynch would be a good signing, but more intended to be the player to replace Coley as the hard worker (if Coley every filled that role..)
In that game yesterday I was watching Ryles thinking "What if...?" He would have been a star and maybe the player to have to lead our props forward. Hes a mountain himself but someone who doesnt look like he would take messing off the players around him, not in a Farrell kind of way, just in the form of leading by example in the props. (Sadly what we intended Fielden to do...)

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Quote: W!64N_ENTHUSI45T "I suggested Lynch would be a good signing, but more intended to be the player to replace Coley as the hard worker (if Coley every filled that role..)
In that game yesterday I was watching Ryles thinking "What if...?" He would have been a star and maybe the player to have to lead our props forward. Hes a mountain himself but someone who doesnt look like he would take messing off the players around him, not in a Farrell kind of way, just in the form of leading by example in the props. (Sadly what we intended Fielden to do...)'"


Sadly i think the excuse for a Prop Fielden has to go down as our "work horse" for next year due to the nature of his contract.

We badly need the enforcer as a priority, and although i rate Lynch do not think he fits the bill personality wise.

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Elima?
If he wasn't so injury prone this season he should be a target.

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What we need for next season is what we need for this season and we should have signed these players prior to this season starting.

We needed a prop forward and didn't get one. Instead we brought in Roberts a year earlier when we didn't need him. A winger certainly wasn't the priority in the off season or should not have been if it was. We should have moved heaven and earth for a prop forward and didn't.

Also we needed a replacement for Trent Barrett. Why we thought that Tim Smith would do this I am not quite sure. Lack of judgement on players. Everyone is saying for next season we need a leader - someone who can direct us around the park and shape our attack. We needed this for THIS season and yet failed to identify this.

Again this season it is still obvious we need a prop forward but instead Noble and Lenagan have been quoted as saying that we needed a game breaker and so payed a six figure sum for Martin Gleeson. Although this was an area we needed to strengthen it once again was NOT the priority. We need a prop forward. With no disrespect to Martin Gleeson a prop forward would strengthen the team much more than Gleeson has.

We might as well write this season off because without a stronger front row, we wont dominate matches and wont be able to lay down a platform for our backs to work from and people will be blaming Roberts and pointing the finger at Leuluai and Tomkins when it is our forwards that should get the stick.

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I hear all this talk about how we should have got a new prop for this season, but the reality is that a considerable percentage of our wage bill for 2009 was already allocated to prop forwards, of whom we started the season with 5. I doubt it would have made good financial sense to add another one.

Even at the end of this year, Coley's departure will not free up a great deal of cash.

That will only happen when Fielden's contract expires at the end of 2010.

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Quote: Cruncher "I hear all this talk about how we should have got a new prop for this season, but the reality is that a considerable percentage of our wage bill for 2009 was already allocated to prop forwards, of whom we started the season with 5. I doubt it would have made good financial sense to add another one.

Even at the end of this year, Coley's departure will not free up a great deal of cash.

That will only happen when Fielden's contract expires at the end of 2010.'"


True but Add Bailey's wage to that of Andy's and we should have significant funds to get at the very least a player like K.Luleui/Lynch which although not what we exactly need would still be an improvement on what we have.

I still think with the players we have coming off contract we can attract and afford someone better. Petro would be my undoubted choice.

At the end of day we have to, legitimately or by the uncle mo calc way, get a top class prop for next season no excuses would be acceptable imo.

Then as you say Fielden is off contract and we should get either LMS or Astotasi

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NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
976
England's Women Demolish The W..
821
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1066
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
866
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1133
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1663
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1915
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2165
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1741
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1980
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2448
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1885
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1974
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2157
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2291


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