What is annoying is how people didn't mind the idea of the play offs until they started sulking that teams below the top two could win it, like they should just turn up for their play offs games and let the better team win!

Because it was fine to include so much of the league as it is expected that it would be too hard for one of those lower teams to make it to the final but it has become apparent that it is not hard enough as its two years in a row now a one off like last year maybe fair enough but two in a row shows the system is flawed. If they want 8 teams in it then they need to work out a setup where the final team left from outside the top 4 must play the entire top 4 (one of which can be the final) before they can win the league but they don't. If you were able to beat Wigan, Wire, Saints and Catalans then most would be like yep fair enough they deserve it and that's what would happen with a top 5 system. Maybe we need a wild card system have 5th to 8th play each other until only one remains and then the second set off playoffs start where they are the fifth team. A merger of top 8 and top 5. That means there's less advantage to finishing outside the top 4 as you need to win 2 games then you need to win 4 more games to win the final beating every team in the top 4. I realise this means a 4 week break for the 1st placed team and 3 for the other of the top 4 but they could play warmup friendlies against the none qualifying teams from 9-12 this keeps the season going longer for everyone and is 100% inclusive.

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As I've said before, I have a lot of friends who are Wire supporters and each and every one of them is great so despite folk like Mr Cat I hope Warrington do win tonight, their genuine long standing fans deserve it and it's been a long time coming.

The one issue I have is Leeds would be in this top 5 I agree it would be better but they could still win from 5th which people would still have a problem with it.

You have mentioned teams Leeds should beat to deserve it in a top 5 Wire, Wigan, Saints and Catalan but if they win tonight they will of beaten all but one of them and without being at home.

Yes but all but one isn't them all and it isn't just that its the fact that to get into a top 5 they'd have to try harder. I know that can be hard to understand as they got 5th this year but its because those 4 teams are all fighting for one spot so teams in 6th 7th and 8th will try harder as they aren't getting a spot unless they're 5th which makes the job harder for Leeds then the playoffs are harder to boot.

Which will mean they haven't beaten all of them so there you go! Its not as hard as the top 5. Especially as week one for them is a training game at home against an 8th placed side who in our league given its standards are just poor.

But as I keep saying the top 5 system is not just about making it hard for the 5th based team it is about giving an ever increasing advantage the higher up you finish. That rewards league position thus giving value to the league and the current system does neither.

There will always be a debate as to whether ANY playoff system creates more deserving champions than a 27 round league program. That is the only real philosophical argument in my book but wherever you stand on that I don't think there is much support for the current play off format.

It's got Nigel Woods written all over it with the stupid "club call" idea. Gimmicks before substance is his speciality.

But then again Leeds wouldnt have to beat all of them in a top 5 depending on the format but its defo not beyond them to beat all 4 above if that was the case.

As I said before Leeds havent been handed this on a plate as some of you seem to think, and I still think if Leeds or whoever won from 5th in a top 5 people moan.

Would love to chat but got a big date.

If they finished 5th in a top 5 playoff system to win the playoffs they'd need to beat all teams above them.

Depends on format though

Really is my last post but for me 1st should go to OT then its a massive reward for coming top problem with that is the gap without a game, that would leave:

2nd v 5th
3rd v 4th

Now as we are doing the Leeds example that would mean Wire V Leeds and Saints v Catalan followed by a semi for OT meaning 5th could win 3 games against teams above (like Leeds could tonight) or top win just one but gives massive reward for winning the league which IMO something defo needs to happen or like that.

There are other ways like the old 1st v 2nd winner goes to OT but still even with these I dont think it would stop Leeds they just seem to be the play off masters.

You just got dumped.

GET IN THERE!!!!

Tonight just showed how little the RL press know about the thing they report on.

A number of Leeds players where ahead of Sinfield for MoM tonight for me:

Peacock
Ablett
Burrow
Delaney

to name four.

Fleabag You haven't been watching the game for very long have you ? This is the Wigan board/section. Have a look at the RL history books. Was it 8 in a row ? And how many times World club champs ? No club has won anywhere near Wigans record for trophies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Warriors Been watching the game for a lon long time and Leeds have also won their fair share of tropheys pre SL era. But guess what we have all moved on and we are now in a new era it is called the Super League era and just look how many tropheys we have wonin that era. So stop living in the past you bitter and twisted old git. Fancy that distinctly average Mr Sinfield winning the MOM. Must be fixed

Fleabag You haven't been watching the game for very long have you ? This is the Wigan board/section. Have a look at the RL history books. Was it 8 in a row ? And how many times World club champs ? No club has won anywhere near Wigans record for trophies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Warriors Been watching the game for a lon long time and Leeds have also won their fair share of tropheys pre SL era. But guess what we have all moved on and we are now in a new era it is called the Super League era and just look how many tropheys we have wonin that era. So stop living in the past you bitter and twisted old git. Fancy that distinctly average Mr Sinfield winning the MOM. Must be fixed