I don't think anyone is asking for all the details; the problem is there are no details. It's something an amateur business would do. Why announce something but not actually make a statement about it, especially on something as controversial and unique as this partnership.

Whilst I agree with you IL has Wigans interests at the forefront, that doesn't mean he's perfect or that every decision has been the correct. Mostly though he needs to put out a blanket statement at least vaguely outlining the benefits of this deal to Wigan.

I would rather have our own home grown talent getting played in the first team rather than training Union players how to play a sport their not equipped to play.

RL contracts aren't worthless, they just don't generate much in the way of damages claims if they are breached and don't give you a strong bargaining position in a negotiation with an RU club....

As for the partnership, I think it's backfired spectacularly. If there was good news then that might have distracted people, but if there is any good news it hasn't been made public so we all assume the worst and it makes a bad situation look even worse.

Okay if they have got Joel does that mean we can have Owen?

No I certainley wouldnt BUT the FACT is that Wigan Rugby League have teamed up with a yawnion club and it just make me projectile vomit. Its filthy, rancid, horrible, nasty and gut wrenching in extreme. And couldn't care less if was the Virgin Mary herself that set the partnership up.

Hopefully this partnership will turn out to be as uneventful as the partnership we apparently had with Melbourne Storm. I can't see how we can get much out of it

The reality is there could be some players at Saracens that are more suited to league, they cover a very different part of the country so this may be useful in the long run

For the cross code match I would have two games...

One playing League for 80 minutes in Twickenham and the other playing 80 minutes of Union at Old Trafford.

Market the hell out of the League game at Twickenham, it will be a sellout anyway with England RU Corporate seats and all that and hammer Saracens.

Then take the Union game to Old Trafford, no one up there will be interested in going, we have a half empty stadium and its a boring game.

Not gonna happen though is it? Why would the RFU host the game at twickers?

I really hope the cross code games never happen

Maybe Wigan are confident in their player turnover and want to make an additional 250k a year through transfers.

Because we can tell them, what better way to showcase how far domestic Rugby Union has come over the past 15 years by showing to Union fans that they can match it with the League boys. At least that's what I would hope we would say

I dont like the idea of some sort of partnership with a Rugby Union club. Saracans know that Wigan produce talented kids if they can possibly have 1st look and 1st choice then they will sign up. I dont see how Wigan benefit from this.

There could, but I'm not sure where. Yesterday Sarries had a pack of 7 elderly South Africans and one elderly Englishman. The only back I would look at is Farrell and yesterday he play centre with 30 year old Charlie Hodgson at 10. The partnership must have some financial gain for Wigan. I suspect that you will get an announcement tomorrow from IL.

Why should we get players from the other code we are challenge cup holders and was nearly double champions and i dont see how WRLFC can benifit from this deal i dont want to see a sarecen player wearing our shirt.

What not even Owen