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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "To be honest if it had come from somebody other than Allan, i'd be totally with you on that, but i'm totally convinced it was just a wind up to get a reaction. Bad taste though probably, but that's Allan all over.'"
Mate, that simply isn't an excuse. Not in the BBC's opinion (see Ross/Brand) and not in mine! As I stated earlier, I'm sure Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson weren't really racist. It's still not deemed suitable for broadcast! We're not talking about some bloke down the pub or a numpty on an internet forum. This is a professional (in one sense of the word only) broadcaster who is, and should be, subject to stricter guidelines of what is suitable or acceptable.
To Ellie. No I have never secretly smiled at a player's injury. Ever. It's interesting that the Wakefield fans who have posted on Amos' injury and,who themselves stood to benefit, have, to a man, not gloated or delighted in it either. They have had more class than this idiot.
Let me ask you a question. If some Warrington troll had come on this board and gloated about Amos' injury would you have told him to grow up and bugger off to his own board or thought "aw, there's no malice in it". In fact, don't bother answering as I already know.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Ah! So you're the self appointed arbiter of what we should or shouldn't think! If only we'd thought to ask you before deciing[sic] for ourselves. God, I feel such a fool now.'"
just getting fed up of this crappy society were everyone's always 'offended'
people need to grow a set and use of bit of the completely misnamed 'common' sense
If that offends you, i don't care.
Think what you like, i do, it's why i said what i said
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4486_1428087820.png Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"
I kept the faith and I kept voting
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For theirs is a land with a wall around it
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "just getting fed up of this crappy society were everyone's always 'offended'
people need to grow a set and use of bit of the completely misnamed 'common' sense
If that offends you, i don't care.
Think what you like, i do, it's why i said what i said'"
If you don't like it then do one!
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| Quote: Donna "If you don't like it then do one!'"
i will but i just got my fifty pence worth in
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4486_1428087820.png Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"
I kept the faith and I kept voting
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For theirs is a land with a wall around it
And mine is a faith in my fellow man
Theirs is a land of hope and glory
Mine is the green field and the factory floor
Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers
And mine is the peace we knew
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| You reckon??? Your opinion love is worthless.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "just getting fed up of this crappy society were everyone's always 'offended'
people need to grow a set and use of bit of the completely misnamed 'common' sense
If that offends you, i don't care.
Think what you like, i do, it's why i said what i said'"
I do think what I like. That's exactly the point. Some day you'll have enough brains to work out that you having an opinion about someone else having an opinion and complaining about them complaining is irony of the highest level. Listen mate, this is nothing to do with common sense (something you've demonstrated far better than I ever could that you have precious little of). This is all to do with standards in society. I seem to remember you being fed up about people over-reacting to crowd violence creeping into the game too. Says it all about your personal standards really doesn't it? Forgive me if I don't use your definition of what's acceptable as my guide. OK?
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I do think what I like. That's exactly the point. Some day you'll have enough brains to work out that you having an opinion about someone else having an opinion and complaining about them complaining is irony of the highest level. Listen mate, this is nothing to do with common sense (something you've demonstrated far better than I ever could that you have precious little of). This is all to do with standards in society. I seem to remember you being fed up about people over-reacting to crowd violence creeping into the game too. Says it all about your personal standards really doesn't it? Forgive me if I don't use your definition of what's acceptable as my guide. OK?'"
find it, no please do.
misquotetastic
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "find it, no please do.
misquotetastic'"
On the thread after the game at your place regarding the 'Shirt burning attack' and the 'attack outside the pub'. CBA digging it out.
Ignoring the rest of the post though are we? Can'tthinkofadecentreplytastic. No surprises really. Next time I'll spell something wrong then you an pick up on that. Can't have you actually responding to the points made can we?
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| Quote: Phuzzy "On the thread after the game at your place regarding the 'Shirt burning attack' and the 'attack outside the pub'. CBA digging it out.
Ignoring the rest of the post though are we? Can'tthinkofadecentreplytastic. No surprises really. Next time I'll spell something wrong then you an pick up on that. Can't have you actually responding to the points made can we?'"
i deplore violence so i don't know where you got that from, i think you are mistaking me for someone else, i only retaliated to the 'all wire fans are scum'
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "i deplore violence so i don't know where you got that from, i think you are mistaking me for someone else, i only retaliated to the 'all wire fans are scum''"
Really? But aren't you the poster who just postedjust getting fed up of this crappy society were everyone's always 'offended'
people need to grow a set and use of bit of the completely misnamed 'common' sense
If that offends you, i don't care.
Think what you like, i do, it's why i said what i said'"
Maybe you need to "grow a set and use of bit of the completely misnamed 'common' sense"
Or do we have a serious case of double standards on our hands. I'll leave it to you to decide.
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| Common sense, rival speccy jokes about leg break (which i said was in bad taste btw) anyone with half a brain knows he isn't being serious
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He's a rival speccy "how dare he joke" lets try to get him the sack. Pathetic !
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Really? But aren't you the poster who just posted
and that's violent how ?
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4486_1428087820.png Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"
I kept the faith and I kept voting
Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand
For theirs is a land with a wall around it
And mine is a faith in my fellow man
Theirs is a land of hope and glory
Mine is the green field and the factory floor
Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers
And mine is the peace we knew
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Common sense, rival speccy jokes about leg break (which i said was in bad taste btw) anyone with half a brain knows he isn't being serious
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He's a rival speccy "how dare he joke" lets try to get him the sack. Pathetic !'"
Ahh well he wasn't saying it as a rival speccy, he was saying it as a BBC journalist.
I can just imagine your complete complacency if Phil Clarke had said it when Lee Briers got injured.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "and that's violent how ?'"
Good God, surely you're not that slow, are you?! Do you really need it pointing out that you were 'offended' by the scum comments and felt an obligation to 'complain' (on this very board, no less!). Then you come on the very same board and post the 'need to grow a pair' post when someone else is offended by something and feel obliged to complain about it.
So to summarise. You're sick of people who get offended (unless it's you), think they shouldn't complain (unless it's you) and should let people say what they want (unless it's not you). Ok we get it. Now write a hundred times on the board:
"I will look up the definition of 'double standards' and read it until I understand the concept."
I think I'll leave this conversation there, if you don't mind. I have better things to do with my time. You're welcome to join another debate when you've digested your own stupidity on this thread and learned from it.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Good God, surely you're not that slow, are you?! Do you really need it pointing out that you were 'offended' by the scum comments and felt an obligation to 'complain' (on this very board, no less!). Then you come on the very same board and post the 'need to grow a pair' post when someone else is offended by something and feel obliged to complain about it.
So to summarise. You're sick of people who get offended (unless it's you), think they shouldn't complain (unless it's you) and should let people say what they want (unless it's not you). Ok we get it. Now write a hundred times on the board
Really, a sweeping generalisation that is not intended to be a joke calling us all scum (a personal attack non the less) or a bad taste joke about an injured player.
Why be offended about a joke ? Especially one that was so glaringly obvious ?
I'm not saying lets have a blanket ban on people being offended but more "lets actually save it for when something is genuinely worthy of being offended"
An attack be it mental or physical is not even in the same league as a 'joke'.
How is that double standards ?
Plus i will air my complaint to the said offender not find out who his/her boss is in a completely petulant way and call for his/her resignation.
maybe the only person worthy of being offended is Amos himself but guess what, i'm sure he isn't.
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